Model Year 2024 Model Y

[Hoosier-Daddy]

EPA numbers are prescribed by EPA, I believe. I don't think Tesla can just change these.

EPA defines the tests but lets manufacturers do them. Manufacturers are allowed to lower the numbers. Another thread here discussed why Tesla ranges are more inflated than other brand/models. One possibility is those other brands chose to lower the claimed range to match their own real-world tests and Tesla reported higher EPA test results that are inherently flawed. That sounds credible since an EPA audit showing Tesla lied would be pretty devastating. If others lowered the numbers from the EPA tests to match real world, seems like a good idea because customers won't be angry or feel mislead.

 

[Hiline]

Perhaps EPA changed the formula to convert test range to EPA range:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1743128632791294319

 

[Hiline]

More information on the change here: https://dis.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_file.jsp?docid=55592&flag=1

 

[DanDi58]

It should be noted that this algorithmic change doesn't affect your real world range, which was never rated range (in 99.9% of cases) anyway.

 

[SpicyPaneer]

That's crazy. Looks like they still have bunch of 2023 available.

They won’t sell the 2024’s to anyone till they get rid of the 2023 that made so many are off the lots. Thats just common sense or they can raise the prices of the 2024 by $2k and knowing how cheap people are would purchase an older model for less money.

 

[davelv]

Be aware that there appears to be 2024 Midnight Silver and Multicoat Red Ys with the 310 mile range. Not all 2024s are Stealth Grey or Ultra Red.

 

[DanDi58]

Be aware that there appears to be 2024 Midnight Silver and Multicoat Red Ys with the 310 mile range. Not all 2024s are Stealth Grey or Ultra Red.

What's the source for that info? I'm not aware that anyone has posted they've received a 2024 VIN yet.

 

[davelv]

What's the source for that info? I'm not aware that anyone has posted they've received a 2024 VIN yet.

Just access Tesla website for inventory cars. I see lots of 310 mile range Ys. ev-cpo also lists 85 2024s last time I looked.

 

[DanDi58]

Just access Tesla website for inventory cars. I see lots of 310 mile range Ys. ev-cpo also lists 85 2024s last time I looked.

Interesting, as ev-cpo doesn't let you select 2024 model year. And I would assume that Tesla reflects ALL MY inventory vehicles with the updated EPA range. As a reminder, Tesla did manufacture 1.85 million vehicles in 2023, while delivering 1.81, so at least some of those 40k vehicles are probably in inventory.

 

[davelv]

Interesting, as ev-cpo doesn't let you select 2024 model year. And I would assume that Tesla reflects ALL MY inventory vehicles with the updated EPA range. As a reminder, Tesla did manufacture 1.85 million vehicles in 2023, while delivering 1.81, so at least some of those 40k vehicles are probably in inventory.

Yes ev-cpo does let you choose model year. Choose Advance Options.

And no, 2023s show higher range, not 2024 lower range.

As a reminder, the 1.85 million cars is WORLDWIDE, and the Tesla inventory by zipcode is only for the USA.

As of now, there are 245 2024s listed in ev-cpo.

 

[DanDi58]

Yes ev-cpo does let you choose model year. Choose Advance Options.

And no, 2023s show higher range, not 2024 lower range.

As a reminder, the 1.85 million cars is WORLDWIDE, and the Tesla inventory by zipcode is only for the USA.

Whatever. I don't believe those are 2024 cars on that website. Doesn't make sense to me that we haven't seen ANYONE here take delivery of a 2024 car, yet they have 80-something 2024s sitting in inventory. I'm playing Doubting Thomas here.

 

[davelv]

Whatever. I don't believe those are 2024 cars on that website. Doesn't make sense to me that we haven't seen ANYONE here take delivery of a 2024 car, yet they have 80-something 2024s sitting in inventory. I'm playing Doubting Thomas here.

Doubt away, but just for instance look at this one:

https://www.tesla.com/my/order/7SAY236_5262627372fc358da41f73a9d8ef67b4?postal=99201&range=25&region=WA&coord=47.66007159999999,-117.4316272&titleStatus=new&redirect=no#overview

No one said sitting in inventory but being available inventory per Tesla. Many if not all are in transit.

But again the whole point was to check that you are getting the color you want as there was overlap into 2024.

 

[Acer1]

I just ordered a LRMX. Let’s see if they assign a 2024 VIN.

 

[davelv]

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I just ordered a LRMX. Let’s see if they assign a 2024 VIN.

EPA says new cars change model years no later than on 1/1 of each year, but Tesla could find a 2023 that matches your order. Let us know how you fair.

 

[ChiefRollo]

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EPA says new cars change model years no later than on 1/1 of each year, but Tesla could find a 2023 that matches your order. Let us know how you fair.

If Tesla matches the order with a 2023 vehicle, that does not mean that vehicle was made in 2024. Tesla is both a manufacturer and a dealer; if dealers can sell 2023 vehicles in 2024, so could Tesla.

 

[davelv]

If Tesla matches the order with a 2023 vehicle, that does not mean that vehicle was made in 2024. Tesla is both a manufacturer and a dealer; if dealers can sell 2023 vehicles in 2024, so could Tesla.

Yes of course. My point is that ordering a car from Tesla in January 2024 does not guarantee Tesla will offer a 2024.

 

[Acer1]

Yes of course. My point is that ordering a car from Tesla in January 2024 does not guarantee Tesla will offer a 2024.

Good point, but I won’t accept delivery if it’s not 2024.

 

[Mike728]

Good point, but I won’t accept delivery if it’s not 2024.

Only $250 to find out. Good luck!

 

[Kairide]

Good point, but I won’t accept delivery if it’s not 2024.

Just keep waiting then.

 

[Acer1]

Good point, but I won’t accept delivery if it’s not 2024.

That Would be like buying an iPhone 14, when 15 is out already. In Apple’s case, at least they offer a discount for last year’s model!