More roll than what? Not stock. More than with some aftermarket springs. Read carefully.
So he's saying the springs (tsportline) are better then the coilovers for body roll? that's not what I want to hear though lol
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More roll than what? Not stock. More than with some aftermarket springs. Read carefully.
The best thing for you is no springs. Have them replaced by 3” diameter solid steel rods. You will have no roll.So he's saying the springs (tsportline) are better then the coilovers for body roll? that's not what I want to hear though lol
The best thing for you is no springs. Have them replaced by 3” diameter solid steel rods. You will have no roll.
The best thing for you is no springs. Have them replaced by 3” diameter solid steel rods. You will have no roll.
I am very happy with my new Comfort Coilovers from Mountain Pass Performance and KW. VERY happy. The car is definitely more comfortable and better handling than stock.
They were installed yesterday at West End Alignment in Gardena, CA, which I also highly recommend. Chris is fanatical, meticulous, prompt, and communicative.
The vibrations coming into the cabin are reduced. “Muted” is the word that immediately came to mind. “Muffled“ may apply. I was aiming at road defects and smiling.
It is quieter. Sound is vibration, so less vibration means less noise in the cabin. I never heard anyone say that. It was a surprise to me.
It clearly corners much better, with less body roll. Clearly. More smiles. The flatter cornering adds to the comfort as well as the excitement. I don’t know why MPP doesn’t claim this. There must be ways to measure it so they can. If there’s no app for that, how about a bowl of water on the floor, and measure the spill?
Of course it looks better. It looks right. My installer agreed with the MPP height recommendation. Mine are set a few mm above the MPP recommendation to allow for slight settling.
The stock setup was annoying. Now my M3P rides like the German cars I am used to. The only downside besides the time and money is that I will probably wear out my tires faster now that it corners better.
@MountainPass
I received my hybrid coilovers (sport dampers w/ comfort springs) and these things ooze quality! Very impressed.
I'm not finding much around initial settings on this setup. The rears seemed to match the initial comfort settings for the spring perch distance but on the fronts I have ~60mm perch distance to give my a 1-2 finger wheel gap. It looks like the latest version of the dampers no longer use the rubber isolator from the stock dampers? Also no Teflon shims included or mentioned in mpp's latest instructions.
My next question would be the initial compression/rebound settings? I started 12C/10R all around and seemed pretty good. I went one step softer 13/11 and the car did not feel in control at highway speed. Assuming the starting point will be different with the soft springs vs sport but would like to know what mpp thinks.
@MountainPass
I received my hybrid coilovers (sport dampers w/ comfort springs) and these things ooze quality! Very impressed.
I'm not finding much around initial settings on this setup. The rears seemed to match the initial comfort settings for the spring perch distance but on the fronts I have ~60mm perch distance to give my a 1-2 finger wheel gap. It looks like the latest version of the dampers no longer use the rubber isolator from the stock dampers? Also no Teflon shims included or mentioned in mpp's latest instructions.
My next question would be the initial compression/rebound settings? I started 12C/10R all around and seemed pretty good. I went one step softer 13/11 and the car did not feel in control at highway speed. Assuming the starting point will be different with the soft springs vs sport but would like to know what mpp thinks.
In my experience the OEM rubber isolator is way more effective than the super hard thin rubber donut that comes with the kit. I tried both, and the OEM was way smoother and much better at absorbing sharp impacts without losing anything in terms of handling transients. 12 C / 10R is a great starting point for sure, and I found that pretty comfortable even with the Sports Springs so with a comfort Springs it should be even better. From there it's tune to taste.
And yes the kit does just ooze quality!
Pros and cons for the hybrid? Curious what's your reason for going with them instead of the Sports cause I've heard the sports are almost as comfortable as the Comforts?
This is the current front coil setup. Are you referring to the spring spacer? I aligned mine exactly as the pic, but do see some installs where people have used the rubber isolator with the spring spacer and without.
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I no suspension expert, so didnt know if a different spring rate would be better accompanied by a different C/R than the sports.
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Hoping @MountainPass can chime in on the best way to install the newest versions.
Also seems that the new versions fork are universal for AWD and RWD?
How do the KW spacers compare to the ones you made and shipped out (which is what I have) ? Any reason to replace with the newer KW ones? My installer could never get the ride height to match front and back and I am curious if the kw ones are a difference specification, even if just slightly?
What about using the OEM rubber isolator. Is it better to use only the spring spacer, spacer and isolator, or just isolator?
Enjoy and let us know what you think!Just got them delivered today. Now all I need is a car to out them on! Tesla...oops wrong thread, I ordered the sports! Either way, need a car.