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Please provide a technical source which shows that AP works better with a new computer.....
So my question is, if I buy a Model 3 right now, will I get HW 3.0 even if I don't get FSD?
..."Andrej Kapathy mentioned that the v9 neural net will be much more accurate at perception with 3.0 compute than current hardware."...
There is no denial that the latest hardware is more powerful than the last one.
That is also true with Cell Phone. However, if you only sign up for voice, it's very little help to get a cell phone with lots of memory because the voice function doesn't take up that much.
Same with Autopilot. Like cell phone voice, it doesn't take that much power because it has only 2 functions:
1) TACC
2) Autosteer
It doesn't even need to Auto Lane Change because that's $7,000 more!
So, just like cell phone, sure HW3 has more power than HW2 & 2.5, but there's still lots of power for HW2 & HW2.5 just to do 2 functions.
So when you buy a cell phone and the receipt says "voice" and you later found out others buy the same phone but they can text and use internet and you can't!
You can sue them for not including the higher power of internet usage capability but what counts is your receipt that has no mention of the higher power functions.
...I trusted what I heard.
...safety...
Trust should be memorialized in a legal document.
Lots of promises from salespeople including Elon but if those are not on the sales receipt then they are not guaranteed.
Hindsight, at the delivery, I should get the readout and documentation of what the hardware is if that is important to me.
True and hindsight is 20-20. I believe Musk is a man of honour and I know he can afford to make this right. I would start a go-fund-me to raise the 10K for FSD, but I doubt I will get much empathy considerng I purchased a 60K car (SR+ Including + 2K for white).
If you PAID for FSD on a car that had HW2.5 then, YES you get the FSD computer aka HW3 as a FREE upgrade and the associated software features that go along with the hardware to enable FSD. If a vehicle that has HW3 or HW2.5 and you don’t PAY for the FSD software option then why would they give it away? Even if they decided to upgrade everyone to HW3, you would still have to purchase the FSD software to enable FSD features. I don’t get where the OP is going with this thread?
Autopilot is SAE Level 2 which means it is not safe enough without an attentive driver.
When the Autopilot is safe enough, it won't be classified as Level 2 anymore. It will be Level 3 and it won't be called Autopilot either. That's the start of FSD.
Starting from Level 3, the job of monitoring the environment is now shifted from the driver to the machine, although at this lowest level of FSD, human still needs to be there in case the machine can't do it.
So if your goal is safety, you should pay for Level 3 or more and not Level 2.
No matter how good Level 2 Autopilot is: Its maximum class is it is unsafe without an attentive driver.
It's the same concept as cell phone voice only vs. smartphone with the internet. The maximum and best you'd get is voice and without paying for more, you can never browse the internet.
That means it doesn't matter it's HW2, HW3, HW5, HW10, HW99... As the machine gets better and more powerful, but if you only pay for Autopilot, then Level 2 is all that you get.
You paid 60K for an SR+?I purchased a 60K car (SR+ Including + 2K for white).
So why can't I get my 2.5 hardware upgraded for free for my model 3, which was made in June 2019? I bought it and assumed I would get latest based on this remark. I hear Autopilot works much better with HW 3, and I have to live with this old hardware or pay 10k for FSD! Not sure how FSD will ever handle Canadian winters! I feel swindled!
Still dont understand why people are calling 3.0 the FSD computer. I have yet to see any proof 3.0 is any better than 2.5 and have zero proof 3.0 is capable for of FSD.