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Need opinion on Model S vs. Model X

Discussion in 'Model X' started by Pandamoanium, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. Pandamoanium

    Pandamoanium Member

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    Hey everyone!

    So I've been considering a switch or upgrade for a while now. I've kept most options open but it seems like a good one for me is to potentially go to a Model S.

    I've been looking at the P85D and P90D, both classic and uplift fascia. Preferably they both have the Luda upgrade. It's a small difference between the two 0-60, but aside from that and the small bump in range, what else is there? To my knowledge the updated fascia didn't change anything aside from aesthetics.

    If you have one and an X, what do you prefer and why? Is it a HUGE difference between the two? 2015/2016 doesn't seem like the quality will be night and day but I could be wrong.

    Thanks ahead of time!
     
  2. commasign

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    We have both. The X (6 seater) is the family hauler and road tripper. The S is my fun commute and errand car. I think the build quality on my Dec 2014 Model S P85D is excellent.
     
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  3. arijaycomet

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    Between my wife and myself, we've had (oldest/cheapest to newest):
    2014 Model S 60 RWD inventory (non-tech package, no parking sensors, no turn-by-turn nav)
    2014 Model S 85 RWD CPO (wife's current car, has tech package w/nav + park sensors, she loves it, pre-autopilot)
    2014 Model S 85 RWD inventory (was my first car, before AWD and AutoPilot hardware came to exist)
    2015 Model S 85D AWD inventory (owned for about 16 months, loved this car, first AP1 car)
    2016 Model S 70D AWD custom order (facelift, which I'll talk about more in a second)
    2016 Model X 75D AWD inventory (this is my current car, sold my face lift my Model S for this beast)

    For me it was a matter of trading first because I wanted AWD/autopilot, second time because I wanted to downgrade (lower payment) and the facelift. And third time because I wanted the SUV, and since my wife had the sedan still, it gives us the best of both worlds.

    That said... the face lift DOES add a few features. Not only did they revise the aero slightly (~3% better coefficient of drag by redesign of the front fascia and rear lower valence), they made some smaller improvement. Perhaps the best one I noticed was the front radar being hidden behind the bumper. My 2015 AP1 85D had issues during increment weather where snow build up on the low to ground location caused AP to stop working on some trips-- had that issue almost never on the face lifted car. Also the face lift car has better headlights even w/o the premium package, but add premium + face lift and you get adaptive headlights I believe (mine didnt have PuP).

    Interior materials were slightly improved in the later cars, each year they get a bit better. Latch on the frunk is improved on later cars versus earlier cars. Revision on the door handles is better (though if you have warranty not a huge issue, but my 2016 never had door handle replaced-- on our 3 2014s and 1 2015, all of them had at least one door handle replaced over time due to motor/actuation issues-- again by late 2015/early 2016 they had fixed those).

    That said, I'd also personally get the face lift because then it will "look current" for longer. At this point the old fascia nose cone is already the "classic" style and out-dated. If you can get into a face lift car for the right price you'll be getting the "current" aesthetic. Not saying that is a big deal-- and yes, 2015 build quality is solid. But newer might keep you happier longer to have the "new" look.

    As for S vs X ... personal preference. The X just feels huge to me, purposeful to drive, but at these same time, almost too big much of the time. If you could have only one, and you didn't really next 6/7 seats-- the S is hands down better due to the size, range, efficiency dynamics, etc. However, there are so many cool unique features of the X (auto open/close front doors, FWDs, etc). I will also say that hauling "items" (large/long) easier to do in the S with the rear seats folded down. Even in the 6 seater version the X is better at hauling people than it is hauling stuff. We have a '14 S non-AP so we use my '16 X to do long trips. But daily, to work and back we drive the S because its just easier to "bum around town" in. :) Hope this helps!!
     
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  4. EV-lutioin

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    I have a MX and have had several loaner MS's. Every time I get a loaner MS, it is super fun for a while and then I soon miss the spaciousness, the automatic doors (I know it seems silly, but once you have them you can't live without them!), the large windshield, the higher profile, the incredibly comfortable seats, and an indescribable awesomeness that comes from driving the MX. I am always happy to give the MS back after a few days and am reminded how happy I am that I bought the MX instead.
     
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  5. Lipsyte

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    Exactly my experience. MS loaner at first is really fun, but I was so glad to get back the X after service. Autopresenting doors are the option you didn't know you needed so much. I also missed the Falcon wings doors for the car seats.
     
  6. Finder

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    Agreed from my end too. Had the Model S for 3 weeks as a loaner. Missed the auto presenting doors more than I imagined. Missed the windshield on the X and riding up higher as well. No contest for me - I would only go for the X in the future unless they made major changes to the S (auto presenting doors and some kind of new windshield). X feels like it is from the future while the S is just at the top of the present (better than current cars, but not so much so it feels like it is from another time).
     
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  7. Yinn

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    Different strokes...I own both and yes they're a huge difference.

    For moving people: I prefer the X. I find the X easier to drive. Better visibility, dimensions, more comfortable seating position.
    For carrying cargo: I prefer the S. There's more length in the S, but the seats are also easier to get up and down and overall less trouble that it is in the X
    For wow factor: I prefer the X. The doors wow. Everything from the Falcon doors to the screen controlled doors.
    For looks: I prefer the S. The proportions are better and just more aesthetically pleasing. It's also more discreet. As per above w/ wow factor, some days I don't really want to enter into an hour long Tesla discussion with some stranger. (TMC excluded)
    For the drive: The S drives better, it's lighter. Regen is more noticeable and aggressive. The X hides weight well, but it still shows against the S. Both in terms of acceleration and cornering. The X isn't a slouch, but back to back you might think it is.
    For quality: I bet this one is a YMMV depending on which shift the guy is on when he built your car. Our S is newer, but the trim alignments/fit & finish quality is poor in comparison to our X. Our X has more squeaks and noises though.

    Hope this helps! Feel free to ask any specifics you have.
     
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  8. Pandamoanium

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    Thanks everyone for the input! I'll need to look some more, but now my wife has thrown a P series X into the mix versus just downsizing to an S and performance... Jeez...
     
  9. jive_devil

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    Yinn has a great summary. My even shorter version is:
    • Model S - More fun to drive; better at carrying stuff - get this if the car will be used primarily for moving YOU
    • Model X - More comfortable to drive; better at carrying people - get this if the car will be used for moving OTHERS, especially kids and the elderly
     
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