New FSD Beta Button for 2021 Refreshed Plaid and Long Range

[Oil Freedom]

It's gonna be so interesting to see when they start releasing...it's not this weekend right, but October 9?

Correct.

 

[jebinc]

Just stay out of Atlanta. I'm finding that AP with "Tesla vision" is slower to react to bumper to bumper traffic stops on highway. Scared the *sugar* out of me that AP just kept me humming along in fast lane at 65mph when middle lane was stopped and clearly ahead all traffic in left lane was a dead stop. So rather than play chicken with AP I overrode with brake. And I was rewarded with a massive safety score penalty for "Forward Collision Warning". So to game the system I should leave it stay in AP and HOPE that it breaks in time. WTAF.

Agreed, Vision cars are inferior, currently.

 

[impastu]

Maybe getting the hang of this scoring system. Forty miles round trip into midtown Manhattan. Lots of traffic. Perfect score.

 

[cwanja]

Maybe getting the hang of this scoring system. Forty miles round trip into midtown Manhattan. Lots of traffic. Perfect score. View attachment 716571

Good job Big Daddy.

 

[impastu]

So I enrolled in the fsd beta in my plaid this morning and from what I read online they aren't monitoring high speeds or straight line acceleration. I know they mentioned cornering g-force but does this mean I can still 'have fun' in my plaid in a straight line and not have a negative impact on my safe score?

Yes as long as you don’t have to brake hard. Deductions for hard braking. Full regen can exceed the threshold.

 

[impastu]

Good job Big Daddy.

That’s what she said.

 

[brunla]

My biggest concern now is what happens AFTER you get admitted to the FSD program? Obviously the Safety Score thing is not going away. So then what score do we need to have to keep it? I didn't pay for a $100K+ sports car to drive like a grandmother all the time. It's sustainable for a few weeks, but not forever. And I feel if I get it, and then they take it away, I want my $10K back since these metrics were never explained. This could easily turn into a class-action lawsuit if Tesla doesn't be careful.

 

[cwanja]

I didn't pay for a $100K+ sports car to drive like a grandmother all the time.

Then do not.

I want my $10K back since these metrics were never explained.

You did not pay for the beta.

Harsh comment coming - but can every just get the **** over their safety score and drive their car? Everyone on Reddit complaining about "I went from 100 to 99 because of a damn dog". I get it, I am not in the same boat since I have not taken delivery. But just enjoy your car.

 

[brunla]

Then do not.

You did not pay for the beta.

Harsh comment coming - but can every just get the **** over their safety score and drive their car? Everyone on Reddit complaining about "I went from 100 to 99 because of a damn dog".

And people that constantly defend Tesla's ridiculousness should get over themselves. On the website that explains what I purchased it says "Autosteer on City Streets Coming Later This Year". Not, "After we decide to score you and you must drive like a grandmother on a daily basis for the foreseeable future". In addition, Elon has been plugging the button for months and the widespread release of the product. Then springs the Safety Score thing. Why build up people's hopes? Why not say that from the beginning? And certainly don't have a system that is docking people because they live in a congested city with other bad drivers that cause your score to go down. It's just wrong.

 

[cwanja]

On the website that explains what I purchased it says "Autosteer on City Streets Coming Later This Year"

It also said that last year.

In addition, Elon has been plugging the button for months and the widespread release of the product.

He also has been plugging FSD and robotaxis for years.

 

[Oil Freedom]

Maybe getting the hang of this scoring system. Forty miles round trip into midtown Manhattan. Lots of traffic. Perfect score.

Congrats, and... Wow, Manhattan drivers must've changed their collective style a lot since I last drove there!

 

[impastu]

Just stay out of Atlanta. I'm finding that AP with "Tesla vision" is slower to react to bumper to bumper traffic stops on highway. Scared the *sugar* out of me that AP just kept me humming along in fast lane at 65mph when middle lane was stopped and clearly ahead all traffic in left lane was a dead stop. So rather than play chicken with AP I overrode with brake. And I was rewarded with a massive safety score penalty for "Forward Collision Warning". So to game the system I should leave it stay in AP and HOPE that it breaks in time. WTAF.

So confirmed this morning to my surprise and somewhat to my delight that when on highway careening at great speed while on AP towards stopped traffic backup clearly visible in the distance, remaining passive in the face of potential doom and allowing AP to decide when to panic brake does preserve a perfect safety score even when AP disengages in a bot-panic. I don't know if I have the stomach to repeat that too many times.

 

[KZ-CLT]

So confirmed this morning to my surprise and somewhat to my delight that when on highway careening at great speed while on AP towards stopped traffic backup clearly visible in the distance, remaining passive in the face of potential doom and allowing AP to decide when to panic brake does preserve a perfect safety score even when AP disengages in a bot-panic. I don't know if I have the stomach to repeat that too many times.

Thanks for taking one for the team, Woody, in the name of research

 

[VM0412]

Then do not.

You did not pay for the beta.

Harsh comment coming - but can every just get the **** over their safety score and drive their car? Everyone on Reddit complaining about "I went from 100 to 99 because of a damn dog". I get it, I am not in the same boat since I have not taken delivery. But just enjoy your car.

Agree with this 100%. I'm just happy that he seems like FSD is moving forward...whether I get granted access or not. It's just nice to see it rolling out to more people.

 

[Clintonm9]

I have opted in to the beta from the car and my app shows the safety score, but it is stuck on “after my first trip”. I’ve driven the car many times over many days. Is there a step I missed?

 

[sflgator]

My biggest concern now is what happens AFTER you get admitted to the FSD program? Obviously the Safety Score thing is not going away. So then what score do we need to have to keep it? I didn't pay for a $100K+ sports car to drive like a grandmother all the time. It's sustainable for a few weeks, but not forever. And I feel if I get it, and then they take it away, I want my $10K back since these metrics were never explained. This could easily turn into a class-action lawsuit if Tesla doesn't be careful.

Don't participate; pretty sure I won't after I get my MS Plaid. I'll wait until the real-deal FSD is available, for what I paid for it! Not interested in having Big Brother examining my driving habits after what I'm paying for this car, lol.

 

[tbaud]

Don't participate; pretty sure I won't after I get my MS Plaid. I'll wait until the real-deal FSD is available, for what I paid for it! Not interested in having Big Brother examining my driving habits after what I'm paying for this car, lol.

Which is a good plan unless the FSD price goes up.

 

[cwanja]

Which is a good plan unless the FSD price goes up.

If you already purchased FSD, when it’s officially released the price won’t matter. You locked in your price at purchase of the car.

 

[impastu]

Literally spend four days perfecting my safety-score-Maximizing driving style and start repairing my score from early learnings. Then wife gets in late for a tennis match and crushes the hard braking and high g-force turn scores. I give up.

 

[jebinc]

Literally spend four days perfecting my safety-score-Maximizing driving style and start repairing my score from early learnings. Then wife gets in late for a tennis match and crushes the hard braking and high g-force turn scores. I give up.

@impastu So, what is your score, currently?