Tesomega
Member
MCU1/AP3 FSD Subscription, still does not get you anything.. still running a 2020 firmware and Tesla has told that the latest firmware for my hardware version.
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New FSD Beta Button for 2021 Refreshed Plaid and Long Range
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jebinc
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I donated $15k to the cause, $5000 back in 2019 and 10k in August with the Plaid purchase. I chose not to donate another $10k when I got the MYP in September. Enough is enough!
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
Are you claiming these donations on your taxes?
jebinc
Well-Known Member
These are donations to a non charitable organization, so no, you can’t claim them!
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
Really? I thought I heard that Elon was taking Tesla into a 501c3 in 2 weeks.
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
No Elon said 420c69 in 3 months maybe 6 months definitely
Was at 93 and went for drive today to try and Jack up my score but traffic screwed me and now I’m at 80. My new strategy is driving at like 2am with less cars.
If you're not on Autopilot anyone cutting in your lane generates an Unsafe Following deduction. What bullshit.
Although we've been waiting a long time to get our money's worth for FSD, I like to keep something in mind: If it weren't for Tesla, there'd be no such thing as even a chance to get into something like an FSD beta, or the beta versions of autopilot, etc. -- that we've already enjoyed. Just think about how much that's improved through software updates.
The traditional car companies can't fathom letting customers beta anything at scale. They're too risk averse and would also rather give us incremental improvements -- by buying another vehicle from them the next model year. That's slowly changing, thanks to market pressure from Tesla.
FSD is fundamentally a very different kind of challenge; it's no ordinary technology feature. Great design and engineering just aren't enough for this kind of problem. FSD requires tons of real-world data collection, and the beta is a way to scale that up. But, Tesla must still be careful. There's no perfect way to do that, but Tesla is at least trying.
We're participating in an amazing revolution of autonomous driving technology. I think it's really cool to get to personally experience this in its early days, contribute a tiny bit with my driving data, and watch it improve over time. We'll get there!
The traditional car companies can't fathom letting customers beta anything at scale. They're too risk averse and would also rather give us incremental improvements -- by buying another vehicle from them the next model year. That's slowly changing, thanks to market pressure from Tesla.
FSD is fundamentally a very different kind of challenge; it's no ordinary technology feature. Great design and engineering just aren't enough for this kind of problem. FSD requires tons of real-world data collection, and the beta is a way to scale that up. But, Tesla must still be careful. There's no perfect way to do that, but Tesla is at least trying.
We're participating in an amazing revolution of autonomous driving technology. I think it's really cool to get to personally experience this in its early days, contribute a tiny bit with my driving data, and watch it improve over time. We'll get there!
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MarcG
Active Member
I posted this in the other thread
The only issue is that Tesla (or Elon, really) made so many promises about timeline that people who bought FSD a while back are antsy to have access to it already, without feeling like the guinea pig jumping through many hoops to get admitted in the first wave of public beta.
If expectations were set differently, and Tesla didn't take people's money for FSD so early, I don't think many people would be upset.
Agreed, and I like how Tesla is carefully expanding the set of beta users to a larger and larger audience, which will improve FSD's behavior over time.
The only issue is that Tesla (or Elon, really) made so many promises about timeline that people who bought FSD a while back are antsy to have access to it already, without feeling like the guinea pig jumping through many hoops to get admitted in the first wave of public beta.
If expectations were set differently, and Tesla didn't take people's money for FSD so early, I don't think many people would be upset.
After a few days, I'm laughing off the Safety Score and happily resigning myself to not getting the FSD beta to mess around with on Nameless. Fortunately, my wife drives like granny so my odds of seeing the beta in action on Night Fury (her M3) are reasonable!
I agree. On one hand Entrepreneurs must think big, really big, and need to possess above-reasonable levels of optimism about what can be accomplished. On the other hand, it does set things up for disappointment at times.
So, I think that's part of it (and even Elon -- the polymath -- has admitted that FSD turned out to be much harder than he expected) and maybe also some excited marketing at play.
All things considered, maybe this is what it took to help Tesla survive. There were numerous times when they very nearly did not.
VM0412
Member
My strategy is to call off work for the next week so I dont have to drive on the highway with these others clowns. I should be a shoe-in for FSD beta amirite?
Like everything else, I expect Tesla will tweak their scoring and/or approach to who gets FSD Beta. Maybe after the initial surge of drivers with 100 or 99% scores joining the beta.
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
It will be interesting to see the distribution curve after one week.
bhakan
MSLR MSM/Blk/19/FSD, Ord 6/10/21, Del 2/20/22
Occurred on numerous occasions as I was driving thro DC streets and in Georgetown. I was on AP but suddenly someone finds that parking spot and applies brakes and there you go... my scores go down. They should grade based on the difficulty level too.
It'll be interesting to see when they release, what are the real rubric they are using...for example...score of 100 or 99. Do they accept people who haven't driven many miles, like <100 miles for the week? It's gonna be so interesting to see when they start releasing...it's not this weekend right, but October 9?
Yesterday I had a woman come in to my lane from the opposite direction and had I not swerved onto the shoulder and used the brakes pretty hard, it would have been a pretty bad head on collision. It is all on dashcam and somehow I still got a 100 score for that drive. Unbelievable lol.
Just stay out of Atlanta. I'm finding that AP with "Tesla vision" is slower to react to bumper to bumper traffic stops on highway. Scared the *sugar* out of me that AP just kept me humming along in fast lane at 65mph when middle lane was stopped and clearly ahead all traffic in left lane was a dead stop. So rather than play chicken with AP I overrode with brake. And I was rewarded with a massive safety score penalty for "Forward Collision Warning". So to game the system I should leave it stay in AP and HOPE that it breaks in time. WTAF.
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