New Petition to White House Requesting Direct Tesla Sales in All States

[mitch672]

And then sadly, there's this one: Prevent Tesla from bypassing laws designed to protect the consumer the effort to increase their profit to 50% per car. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government

This is ludiscrous, and obviousley from a car dealer, how about just keeping the %25 margin and cutting out useless parasites on society? I doubt this will get many signatures, lets look up, this imbecile.. he's the only one who's signed it, lol

creator
J. T.
Atlanta, GA
June 28, 2013
Signature # 1 ..

we petition the obama administration to:
Prevent Tesla from bypassing laws designed to protect the consumer & the effort to increase their profit to 50% per car.
Elon Musk has begun a campaign to sell Tesla directly to consumers with no competition, thereby increasing his profit per vehicle from 25% per sale to 50% per sale.

Franchise laws are designed to prevent this type of price gouging and we are committed to requiring Tesla and Elon Musk to adhere to these laws just like every other Auto Manufacturer must adhere to these laws.

Read for yourself about Elon Musk's desire to gouge customers of this new technology to a 50% gross margin:

Musk Says Tesla Gross Margin to Approach Porsche’s - Bloomberg

Created: Jun 28, 2013

 

[Krugerrand]

Signed by 1 person! (the author I assume)

Gotta love the logic. We can't allow a company to sell you a car because they will charge too much and you will still buy it. Is there a law to stop Mercedes from increasing the cost of the S class $10,000 on a whim too?

I believe this gentleman is responsible for it. It was just created today, so we'll see how many people agree with his views. Joshua Turner (JoshuaTurner187) on Twitter

 

[dsm363]

I believe this gentleman is responsible for it. It was just created today, so we'll see how many people agree with his views. Joshua Turner (JoshuaTurner187) on Twitter

Good detective work. So he's angry the company he wants to shut down isn't giving him a platform to do it? He does support 'free markets' though. So Porsche is allowed to make 50% margins and that is not price gouging since they sell through a dealership but if Tesla tries it, then it is wrong. What ever happened to if it is too expensive people won't buy it? Price gouging happens when you have no other choice but to buy that product, not when you have hundreds of different cars to pick. Weak effort on his part.

 

[bollar]

I believe this gentleman is responsible for it. It was just created today, so we'll see how many people agree with his views. Joshua Turner (JoshuaTurner187) on Twitter

Love his tag line: I believe in free markets.

 

[Krugerrand]

Love his tag line: I believe in free markets.

Well, it's all about word comprehension skills and interpretation.

 

[Norbert]

Somehow I doubt that's his own photo. He is a clown.

 

[mitch672]

Somehow I doubt that's his own photo. He is a clown.

Yup, holding steady at 1 signature

 

[rolosrevenge]

Our petition has 40,000 signatures. Having Tesla sell through dealers wouldn't stop Tesla from trying to get 50% margin, they'd sell the cars to the dealers for as much, the dealers would then hike another 10% to it. If he wants to see Tesla make less money, get the other manufacturers to make a competitive EV so Tesla has to lower their prices.

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And now 42,000. This is entirely possible.

 

[dsm363]

Tesla just sent out an e-mail and looks like they picked up 8,000 signatures since the e-mail was created:

 

[Vger]

The rate shot up dramatically in the last hour or so. Any new news or social media placement?

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I guess the preceding post answers my question!

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The rate is now hundreds PER MINUTE!

 

[sleepyhead]

I would like to note that this petition was created on June 5, 2013 and after 15 days it still had less than 100 signatures. Basically we were handicapped to begin with and it looks like we may exceed the 100,000 total anyway. Awesome!

BTW, how often do these petitions hit the 100,000 mark? I tried searching for other popular petitions but couldn't find any statistics?

 

[Vger]

BTW, how often do these petitions hit the 100,000 mark? I tried searching for other popular petitions but couldn't find any statistics?

Judging by recent responses (Featured Responses | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government), very few petitions have actually made the 100k threshold, since it was raised to that level. So if our petition gets there (or should I say WHEN in get there!), I think it will be quite notable.

 

[sleepyhead]

People are signing at a rate of about 100 per minute!

Forget 100,000, lets go after 1,000,000 signatures!!!

 

[brianstorms]

Anyone look closely at the actual petitioners' "Signature #"? There are dupes.

I hereby present to the court, Exhibit A:

Note how there are two #45,561's. And two #45,552's.

That's four dupes in just the first sixteen of over 45,000 signatures. How many are there total one wonders?

What does it mean regarding the validity of the counts?

 

[ggies07]

Anyone look closely at the actual petitioners' "Signature #"? There are dupes.

I hereby present to the court, Exhibit A:


Note how there are two #45,561's. And two #45,552's.

That's four dupes in just the first sixteen of over 45,000 signatures. How many are there total one wonders?

What does it mean regarding the validity of the counts?

I was just thinking, what stops someone from creating emails and signing up a bunch of times?

 

[Krugerrand]

While there are two 45, 561's as example, there is no 45, 562, but a 45, 563...suggesting that those two 45, 561's were simultaneous votes, but the computer knew enough to skip the next number 562 and assign 563 to the next one.

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I was just thinking, what stops someone from creating emails and signing up a bunch of times?

Nothing except their sense of fairness, honesty...morals and ethics.

 

[Norbert]

Note how there are two #45,561's. And two #45,552's.

That's four dupes in just the first sixteen of over 45,000 signatures. How many are there total one wonders?

What does it mean regarding the validity of the counts?

That's probably a multi-threading bug (missing or wrongly placed software lock). It seems it is not affecting the total number, though, since #45,562 and 45,553 are missing, making up for the duplicates.

 

[brianstorms]

I dunno. I hope we won't have to do a recall and count the chads!

 

[ggies07]

Nothing except their sense of fairness, honesty...morals and ethics.

Oh I know, just thought about that...

 

[TexasEV]

Everyone should forward the petition link to their loan officer, asking them to support the Tesla community and also suggesting they forward it to their co-workers. More Tesla sales = more business for them. I sent it to Scott at Alliant CU.