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Opti-Coat & Xpel Ultimate Film question

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by Gr8pursuit, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. Gr8pursuit

    Gr8pursuit Member

    Jan 19, 2015
    So. California
    Contemplating on doing an Opticoat & Xpel frontal wrap when my car arrives. Been checking around and it seems most shops vary in how they apply the Opticoat.
    Some applies Opticoat and then the Xpel over it and then another coat of Opticoat on top. Some only does the Opticoat on top of the Xpel.
    Any particular way better or correct?
  2. breser

    breser AutoPilot Nostradamus

    Aug 28, 2014
    North Bend, WA
    I can't imagine why you'd put film on top of Opticoat. Part of the point of it is to avoid the need to wax the car. If you put film on top then that defeats the point in my opinion.
  3. ra-san

    ra-san Member

    Dec 26, 2008
    San Diego, CA
    This has been discussed on other wrap/coat threads. Search for more info, but basically coating below film doesn't really help anything, and may affect film adhesion. Coating on top is sometimes done if you want. Not as big a deal as it is on a non-wrapped car, and you need to be sure the coating is compatible with the wrap.
    General order would be paint correction, wrap, compatible sealant if desired.
    For the record I did correction, xpel ultimate, then c.quartz finest on top of that (though nearly just did reload on top... Not sure what I'll do when we reapply).
  4. commasign

    commasign Active Member

    Aug 31, 2013
    Davis, CA
    The correct way as described above is paint correction, Xpel, then OptiCoat (or other sealant). That's how my P85D was done. With that said, my old P85 had the sandwich approach with paint correction, OptiCoat, Xpel, then more OptiCoat. Had no issues with adhesion.
  5. MoeMistry

    MoeMistry Local Vendor - SoCal

    Jul 31, 2013
    Southern California
    This has been a debate on many forums and we've always been on the cautious side and don't see any benefits to applying a coating UNDER the film...manufacturers like XPEL agree with us:

    XPEL Technologies Corp.: Frequently Asked Questions

    "Can/should Opticoat or cQuartz be applied to the car before the film is installed?" We do NOT recommend applying sealants such as Opticoat or cQuartz to the parts of the car that will be covered with film. The low surface energy of paint sealant products such as these will cause adhesion problems both during installation and over the life of the product. In addition, it is worth noting that there is really no benefit to applying sealant to the paint before the film anyway, since the film will provide far more environmental protection to the paint than a sealant ever could.

    At GP, we simply do a proper paint correction, if needed, apply the clear bra, then coat it with a nano coating. Maintenance is easy...simply wash and use nano maintenance spray coating once a month.

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