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P85 in the rain

Discussion in 'Model S' started by whitecotton, Feb 21, 2016.

  1. whitecotton

    whitecotton Member

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    Do any P85 owners feel like the car slides around a lot in the rain? I can normally accelerate (nothing wild) and the traction control comes on immediately. I turned the traction control off and it got much worse just as I had assumed. However with the trac control off the front abs constantly works which makes a horrible noise. The car has brand new conti silent tires, so I know tread depth is not a factor. I just wanted others opinions on the matter. Thanks!
     
  2. StaceyS

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    Respectfully, I think your right foot is a tad too heavy.

    Any powerful RWD car will slide around in the rain if punched hard enough, particularly if you turn the traction control off. The Model S is very powerful, and its instant torque plays into that as well.

    Just because the car is the pinnacle of the cutting edge, it can't break the laws of physics. Treat that power and torque with respect, particularly when conditions are not ideal. Do not have the expectation that you can drive the same in the rain as in the dry.

    If you are in a line of traffic at a stop light behind several cars, and you accelerate at the same rate as the Honda Civic in front of you and the traction control lights up, there's something wrong. But if you're on your own accelerating "normally" in the rain and the traction control lights up, my first guess is that you're pushing too hard. (In my opinion, "normal" acceleration is what a typical $30k car can do without being in a rush, say 0-60 in about 8-10 seconds. Anything faster than that is above normal. Not saying bad, just trying to set a reference to compare by.)

    We have a P85, and its been on snow tires since November. The car is powerful enough to break those tires lose on dry pavement before the traction control kicks in. Its even easier in the rain, and obviously the snow. I have not floored the car since November, and I'm looking forward to the spring when I can put my 21" summer tires back on.

    Additionally, if you're used to accelerating fast enough in the dry to trigger the traction control in the wet, you're going to chew through tires really quickly!
     
  3. techmaven

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    I just put on Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06's and now my P85 doesn't break traction on the rears nearly as easily as on the OEM Michelin MXM4's. But sliding around in the rain... that's just how hard you press the go pedal.
     
  4. CHG-ON

    CHG-ON Still in love after all these miles

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    I have a P85+ and am actually very surprised at how planted it feels in the rain. I thought I would be all over the place.
     
  5. whitecotton

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    I guess it is just me then. The car I had before used the Audi Quattro system and I guess I was just so used to never losing traction in even the worst if conditions it has influenced the way I drive and perceive things with the rwd Tesla. Thanks!
     
  6. Jason S

    Jason S Model S Sig Perf (P85)

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    Yup, it has all the features of a RWD car. The more recent firmware patches make the car more prone to 'heavy foot' ... you should treat that with respect because the car isn't holding back much.

    I prefer the new behavior, I find it fun.

    On other hand, I wouldn't recommend it for everybody. It takes just a little getting used to.
     
  7. alwaysru

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    Have had my P85 for about 8 months now and had my first slide in wet weather today as well (in Austin). Maybe there's some weird extra slippery rain today in Texas.
     
  8. whitecotton

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    I agree, I definitely enjoy it! It was just unusual for me coming from an AWD car!
     
  9. Eclectic

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    Rear end squirreliness on wet roads was a real issue for my old P85. I definitely have a heavy foot and the instant on torque made things very interesting. The two cars I had before the P85 were AWD Audis, so I had to re-learn how to drive a RWD car in these conditions. When the P85D came out, it quickly replaced the P85 and I haven't had any wet weather issues since. Bottom line is that if you drive hard, the RWD Tesla can be a handful on wet roads.
     
  10. brkaus

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    First rain here in a long while, at least my side of town didn't see much actual rain. Tends to be worst as not enough to rinse the dirt, dust, oils, etc off the road.
     

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