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Date | Public Purpose Program (PPP) | Nuclear Decommissioning (ND) | Wildfire Fund DWR | Competition Transition (OCF) | NBC Total |
10/1/2020 | 0.01296 | 0.00101 | 0.00580 | 0.00096 | 0.02073 |
1/1/2021 | 0.01435 | 0.00093 | 0.00580 | 0.00004 | 0.02112 |
3/1/2021 | 0.01575 | 0.00093 | 0.00580 | 0.00004 | 0.02252 |
Not every month, but the tariffs do change every 2-3 months. Since the tariff change always takes effect on the 1st of the month and PG&E billing cycles are not tied to the first of the month it can artificially look like it is changing every month as some NBCs are from the old tariff and some from the new tariff.
Date Public Purpose Program
(PPP)Nuclear Decommissioning
(ND)Wildfire Fund
DWRCompetition Transition
(OCF)NBC Total 10/1/2020 0.01296 0.00101 0.00580 0.00096 0.02073 1/1/2021 0.01435 0.00093 0.00580 0.00004 0.02112 3/1/2021 0.01575 0.00093 0.00580 0.00004 0.02252
I think that all four of these components that make up the NBCs are set by the California PUC and not by PG&E. These components are also in all of the other tariffs (E-TOU-C, E-TOU-D, EV2A, etc), so any increase impacts every customer and impacts non-solar accounts more than solar accounts.Interesting. Still an increase of 10% in 5 months. Are these regularly scheduled increases or are they taken case by case? Is there a cap? Could they just eventually raise the NBCs to 20 cents kwh forcing us with powerwalls to just switch over to self consumption and ditching peak rate sell back?
I'm going to have to update my dashboard to add a table and index the REST data through that instead of assuming fixed values.
I think that all four of these components that make up the NBCs are set by the California PUC and not by PG&E. These components are also in all of the other tariffs (E-TOU-C, E-TOU-D, EV2A, etc), so any increase impacts every customer and impacts non-solar accounts more than solar accounts.
I have two Powerwalls and I'm set to the "Cost Savings" mode. This powers the house through the Peak period with all of the solar going to the grid. However, in the morning all of the solar is going to the Powerwalls to recharge and I would very much like to have the solar go first to the house loads and then to the Powerwalls to reduce the pull from the grid. I don't know why this isn't the behavior in "Cost Savings".
NBCs are also billed for every kWh you take from the grid, not just your net kWh.
If you look at your black and white bill, you will see tables "Current Month Meter Information" and "Billing TOU Energy". The Channel IDs that end in A are your grid take quantities and your Channel IDs that end in C are your grid feed in quantities. I believe you should be billed NBCs on all the A channel usage.
How would going to house first and then PWs reduce your grid pull? You want to charge PWs when rates are the lowest and discharge during high rates. Thats what cost savings does.I think that all four of these components that make up the NBCs are set by the California PUC and not by PG&E. These components are also in all of the other tariffs (E-TOU-C, E-TOU-D, EV2A, etc), so any increase impacts every customer and impacts non-solar accounts more than solar accounts.
I have two Powerwalls and I'm set to the "Cost Savings" mode. This powers the house through the Peak period with all of the solar going to the grid. However, in the morning all of the solar is going to the Powerwalls to recharge and I would very much like to have the solar go first to the house loads and then to the Powerwalls to reduce the pull from the grid. I don't know why this isn't the behavior in "Cost Savings".
NBCs are a "feature" of the NEM2 tariff. Anyone on that tariff, solar or powerwall only, would pay those charges. If you don't have net metering, or you are on NEM1, you don't pay those charges.I know that. I'm only calculating NBCs on >= 0 grid usage for each hour. But my question was back to the solar vs non solar customers. I thought solar customers are not charged NBCs? i.e I am paying a little over 2 cents / kwh for every kwh I use from the grid that I didn't pay before I got solar.
NBCs are a "feature" of the NEM2 tariff. Anyone on that tariff, solar or powerwall only, would pay those charges. If you don't have net metering, or you are on NEM1, you don't pay those charges.
The specific tariff components that you pay as NBCs are a normal part of everyone's rates. You just can't avoid them by offsetting with your own generation. Since non-NEM customers don't generate, they just pay them normally with every kWh that they use.That's exactly my point which conflicts with the statement ".... so any increase impacts every customer and impacts non-solar accounts more than solar accounts."
I think you do. It should appear on the blue bill each month. It is in the history summary for reference.I don't understand why the NBCs accumulate to the annual bill. Why don't we just pay them monthly?
I only pay connection fee per month. Have not see any NBC's in my monthly bill, I thinkI think you do. It should appear on the blue bill each month. It is in the history summary for reference.
I'm not completely sure how it works because I'm on NEM1.
They do not show on the Blue bill, only the B&WI think you do. It should appear on the blue bill each month. It is in the history summary for reference.
I'm not completely sure how it works because I'm on NEM1.
Right, the four NBC components Public Purpose Programs, Wildfire Fund, Nuclear Decommissioning and Competition Transition charges are also charges that make up the full rate tariffs along with the 6 others including the Conservation Incentive Adjustment, Transmission, Transmission Rate Adjustments, Reliability Services, Energy Cost Recovery Amount and New System Generation Charge.The specific tariff components that you pay as NBCs are a normal part of everyone's rates. You just can't avoid them by offsetting with your own generation. Since non-NEM customers don't generate, they just pay them normally with every kWh that they use.
The rates are the lowest in the morning when your Powerwalls need to be charged from the peak/night discharge. Sending the solar to the house load first and then to the Powerwall reduces the kWh that are imported and subject to NBCs.How would going to house first and then PWs reduce your grid pull? You want to charge PWs when rates are the lowest and discharge during high rates. Thats what cost savings does.
I don't understand why the NBCs accumulate to the annual bill. Why don't we just pay them monthly?
Hoping to have zero NBC's too Just a gameEven thought they're "non bypassable", if you have a positive net generation credit at true-up, they'll pay wholesale for unclaimed generation which can be applied to NBCs.
Hoping to have zero NBC's too Just a game