Lane assist, lane keep usually ping pong you between lane markers (not active steering), active steering car is actually keeps you in the middle of the lane and steers for you even during turns (not 90 degree turns). Tesla auto steer is the best in the business.
Right...I guess I didn't word it correctly. I have been on this forum for a long time and was well aware of PB way before the vision only cars started rolling out. However, the complaints seemed way more isolated and infrequent as it didn't affect everyone. But now the complaints seem to be ramping up as more and more Vision only cars get delivered. At least it seems that way to me as someone that spends way too much time on this forum. lol
Yeah so its probably active steering as it doesn't ping pong between the lane markers and does a great job of keeping the car in the middle of the lane. I fully expect Tesla to be much better with the auto steering (minus the PB) in situations where there is a bend in the highway which the Telluride struggles with. Can't wait to try it out.
While phantom braking had been happening to Tesla before vision only, I have experienced less and less of it since 3 years ago on both of my Model X and Model 3. Now I rarely get a phantom braking. I think these new batches of posts do have something to do with vision only. It makes sense that new software needs more testing and newer cars without radar are the beta testers! I just hope they don't roll the software to the people who got radar h/w until it is working better.
You are assuming a lot yourself. Tesla will do what they want just like Apple does and moaning minority will have no say on what company will do until sales will show them otherwise. That is what I see fudsters trying to do here, to push don’t buy narrative and report Tesla to Government so it will be forced in to submission and to stop any kind of innovation.
Can you point to examples of that happening? I've posted before, while other forums don't tend to call it "phantom braking" when the same problem happens, the response is pretty much the same from the dealer that "it is what it is". The manuals have enough disclaimers that occasional unnecessary slowing/braking from ACC is not considered a defect.
Every time I see a thread/post like this, it reaffirms the decision to change my order in May from VO to "existing inventory" with radar was the right one.
I think they “pulled the trigger” on radar due to parts shortages, and they probably did it too soon.
I forgot to mention above that my Y is NO RADAR.I have a 6 month old MY with 17k miles, no FSD. I use AP and TACC almost continuously and rarely have issues (a couple of times per week)? Either it has gotten better over time, or I have gotten better at automatically disabling it when it is going to get itself into trouble. The car is a joy.
And no, I’m not a fanboy… and I suspect there will be a class action lawsuit over FSD in a few more years.
