Since you’re ready to spend $64k on a 2021 pre-refresh, I would definitely look for a 2021 refresh which shouldn’t be more than $5k-$10k more. Besides being a better car in every way, the refresh will hold its value so much better as well.
A 2021 pre-refresh is a tough sell after the release of the refresh and especially lately with the big price cuts. Why would anyone buy that car for $64k when they can just buy a used 2021 refresh ? And you got the dealer down to $64k so I assume they were asking close to $70k. That’s why it’s probably been on the lot for the past 10 months. It’s just a bad deal.
Agreed! Doing a little research on Tesla price history charts will reveal that the sticker price for an LR+ Model S purchased new in December 2020 was only $69,420. So after 30 months of depreciation and 10K miles of use, a discount of only $5K is definitely not a great deal. The private selling dealer probably took this on trade for about $50K so he's looking at a $14K profit!
Never underestimate the power of Tesla to find a way to make the transaction as lopsided to their benefit as possible.
For not much more, you'll have a car that looks "fresher" long and easier to resell if you ever want to get out of it. Now if I could buy a 2021 Model S performance, with low miles and very clean for 50k, I'd be a buyer and sell my 3 in a heartbeat.As someone who just bought a 'pre-refresh' MSP from Tesla, I'm not entirely sure I'd agree with your last few sentences. For me, I was ready to pull the trigger on the 2023 MS LR, but after a few price hikes and reading about the nerfed acceleration, I decided to focus on a M3P. Though after test driving, it was the S that I wanted.
Sounds like you got a good deal. It’s a tough call whether I’d choose a used 2020 S performance or a used refresh LR. That said, it’s not a tough decision comparing the pre-refresh LR to the refresh LR for a few thousand $ extra.
FSD is vaporware, has been since 2014Thanks @DayTrippin !
Apparently I seem to give more credit to FSD
I will probably wait a little longer then - unless the dealer comes down further on the price
Easy call for me on the pre-fresh P or re-fresh LR, LR all day long. Only place where the pre-fresh P is better is 0-60 and if you value performance. Above 40 mph, it is the LR all day long, and never fades. Not to mention all the other upgrades of the LR. The P isn't a bad car but they really got a lot of it right on the re-fresh.Sounds like you got a good deal. It’s a tough call whether I’d choose a used 2020 S performance or a used refresh LR. That said, it’s not a tough decision comparing the pre-refresh LR to the refresh LR for a few thousand $ extra.
I loved my P100D so I’m a huge fan of the Model S Performance. Cheers
That’s a fair point. I never drove the refresh LR so I didn’t know it still pulls hard at higher speeds. You’re right about the pre-refresh (P100D/Performance) it’s crazy quick 0-60 but had nothing left above 70-80mph. Also, my P100D was super quick above 70% but noticeably slower at lower soc. I assume the refresh LR is similar to the plaid the way it still pulls hard as low as 20% soc.
It looks like you had a LR and then switched to a plaid. Probably a dumb question but did you notice a big difference in performance (not just acceleration) between a LR and plaid ? Do the 2 cars have the same suspension ? Similar handling ? Cheers
Except, those cars have USS and they probably won't disconnect the radar...
Good eye. Yes I did go from LR to Plaid. They are very similar cars as you might expect. Which is good/bad. I thought they should have done more to separate them at a trim level. Basically add a 3rd motor, wrap them all in carbon fiber, add on some minor trim differences like a CF wing, optional CF interior and basically you have the same car.
Yeah I have used track mode on the streets a couple of times and the steering feel and regen are really a huge difference. I’ve never been to a track nor a 1/4 mile dragstrip.Good eye. Yes I did go from LR to Plaid. They are very similar cars as you might expect. Which is good/bad. I thought they should have done more to separate them at a trim level. Basically add a 3rd motor, wrap them all in carbon fiber, add on some minor trim differences like a CF wing, optional CF interior and basically you have the same car.
The one really significant change for me was something that wasn't offered initially on the Plaid when rolled out; track mode. You can read about it below from the owner's manual. Basically you can fine tune things between front and rear power delivery as well as just drive it like a drift car if you want. Nothing is stopping you from using it on the street though most of the benefit will be on the track. If you are canyon carving though I could see some real benefit, especially with torque vectoring.
In general driving, I think the LR handled better as it weighed less. Once playing with the track mode, it makes the Plaid feel like it shed a ton of weight.
I have absolutely no regrets about going with the Plaid. Like everything you get used to the performance. I keep in sport mode a lot which is basically like the LR but a little quicker to 60 when on the highway. When you have the LR in Insane mode or the Plaid in Plaid, it does a lot of stuff that uses up the battery to provide the best performance. On the highway I never had any complaints about the acceleration of the LR so it works out well. Sort of nice to flip between sport (LR's insane mode) and Plaid just to see the difference.
