Poll : Which is better - 10.4 vs 10.3.1

[EVNow]

Note : Public poll.

Consider how the two releases performed on your routes. Which release did you like better ?

This was the result of the last poll.

 

[wtwieder]

It's not easy to see any difference, particularly when FSD, regardless of the version, is so inconsistent when driving the same route repeatedly. If by chance, 10.4 seems better in a certain challenging situation, you want to claim that it is improved. But until you repeat the challenge, and it performs consistently better, you can't be sure.

So far, I have not seen any consistent change, better or worse. The lack of obvious improvement is very disappointing. Perhaps, real change will happen once the Dojo computer is up and running, hopefully soon. We'll see.

 

[Ramphex]

EV you got 10.4?

 

[EVNow]

EV you got 10.4?

No - not yet.

 

[Ramphex]

Roger, me neither

 

[EVNow]

Roger, me neither

Well, atleast we are in the majority

Only 357/(1105+357) ~ 25% have been upgraded from 10.3.1 to 10.4.

 

[powertoold]

Not that many people have 10.4 yet, so this poll seems premature lol

 

[EVNow]

Not that many people have 10.4 yet, so this poll seems premature lol

Yes - I expected a quicker rollout.

 

[Driver08]

improved visualizations:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1457205997328498688

https://twitter.com/x/status/1457186475783634946

 

[EVNow]

Not that many people have 10.4 yet, so this poll seems premature lol

Should be good now !

 

[EVNow]

They have to vastly improve speed bump detection, though.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1457186475783634946

 

[Driver08]

They have to vastly improve speed bump detection, though.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1457186475783634946

Agreed. My MY slows for the speed bumps in my area that are painted with white inverted V's like in the visualization, but not for the ones painted solid yellow. Small sample size but I'm wondering if how they are marked affects how FSD identifies them and reacts.

 

[mark95476]

I only got 10.4 this morning and will give it a few days before giving my impressions. Nothing to write about so far other than I'm using FSDbeta at all times now.

 

[Wnuk]

I've seen a good improvement over 10.3 The phantom braking/slow downs are much improved (not entirely gone), in most circumstances the steering has been less jerky, and overall the car seem more confident in turns. YMMV

 

[Phlier]

I'll have to keep my eyes open for these threads... I missed the last one.

Going to take 10.4 on the same testing route that I took 10.2 and 10.3 on. I'll make three runs of the course, then kind of average out the results. It's a pretty long route, though, so I'm hoping I'll have enough time this week to get 'er done.

Edit to ask: I haven't had a chance to go driving yet... are we still double stack with this release?

 

[EVNow]

Edit to ask: I haven't had a chance to go driving yet... are we still double stack with this release?

Yes - I'm sure single stack will be a big announcement ...

and a ton of regressions

 

[powertoold]

10.4 has more longitudinal jerkiness for me (like it's driving stick shift). Lateral jerkiness is reduced. Overall maybe a little better than 10.3.1. The visualizations are sharper and have higher fps than 10.3.1.

 

[Twiglett]

Yes - I'm sure single stack will be a big announcement ...

and a ton of regressions

definitely two stacks
Old Stack >65 limit
New Stack <60 limit
Real PITA when it flips back to new stack because it re-enables the auto high beams etc
Even though its still the old stack, the flip to vision from radar makes it much less sure of itself on some roads. Too many hesitations to be comfortable.
I always felt the radar releases much more confident than vision - apart from the sensitivity to bridges and dark shadows

 

[Phlier]

Finally have enough driving done with 10.4 to have an opinion, hence a vote: "slightly better."

This has been a great thread; I hope you'll continue to have these for each upcoming release!

 

[JulienW]

I went Slightly Better and not necessarily because of driving. Each drive is anecdotally different and overall close to the same with some MAYBE improvements. Slightly better is mostly because of the UI and update changes and the small progression in driving.