Yeah, your tires are one of the most important parts of your car for road safety and good performance. Now that you are in a place to, don’t cheap out on them.
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Put on new tires, now the car is handling weird.
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Yeah, your tires are one of the most important parts of your car for road safety and good performance. Now that you are in a place to, don’t cheap out on them.
By that rationale you should have only bought one winter tire and cut your cost by 50%.
Mixing tire types front and back sounds like a serious problem to me. The handling behavior you describe is almost certainly attributable to your tire choice.
Oldschool496
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Not everybody knows everything and most don't want to know, because it cost$$$. If one is not careful it could cost your life especially with tires. Another issue just because its new, does not mean its good, in this case mixing tires is dangerous everywhere. These cars are expensive, don't get cheap with tires.
It sounds like I have two realistic options. Either get 2 more winter tires for the front of the car, or get two new OEM Primacy MXM4 all seasons for the rear. I called the tire place where I got these winter tires, and to my surprise, they said there's a 30 day period in which I can return them for problems. Even if the problem is my dumb choice, apparently! Getting a pair of the OEM Primacy MXM4's for the rear is about $100 more than what these winter tires cost, so all I have to pay is that difference.
Running all seasons through the winter probably isn't the #1 choice, but they will be new with full tread, and they will be good after winter as well. So I think I'll do that.
I started noticing problems with the winter tires affecting the regen today, but that'll be a separate topic.
Running all seasons through the winter probably isn't the #1 choice, but they will be new with full tread, and they will be good after winter as well. So I think I'll do that.
I started noticing problems with the winter tires affecting the regen today, but that'll be a separate topic.
iwannam3
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A local tire chain got sued for installing only 2 traction tires as the customer insisted and the car spun out and crossed the center line killing several people.. That is why they will only put 4 tires on, never 2. FATAL WINTER ACCIDENT SPAWNS SUIT VS. SCHWAB STORE, HERCULES - Tire Business
I'm so tired of hearing folks say "but they are new all seasons so therefore I don't need snows".
I will echo what others have said here....going cheap on tires is a poor choice. You don’t have to get the most expensive either but get a “best” rates tire. The ones the 3 comes with are pretty good for OEMs but they are actually pretty expensive. For winter tires the Michelin x-Ice 3s are great.
The way I try to do it is have one winter set of wheels and tires and another set for the other 3/4 if the year. It costs more up front but is the same cost over the life of two sets.
The way I try to do it is have one winter set of wheels and tires and another set for the other 3/4 if the year. It costs more up front but is the same cost over the life of two sets.
Right. When I was getting near 6K miles, I was already able to notice a difference in the tread wear between the fronts and rears, so I figured I might as well replace the rears once during the life of the fronts. No sense wearing out all 4 tires, then at winter time I'd have to buy 4 instead of 2.
If 2 X-Ice3's are this squirmy on the road, I certainly don't want 4 on the car!
On my way to work yesterday, I had a clear stretch of open highway, so I ran it up to 110, the tires didn't feel any better or worse at speed.
Ngogas - "Effect", not "Affect" in this use of the word.
And really - nobody told me XIces on the rear and Primacys on the front were a poor idea. Not the Tesla service center, not the tire shop, no one. Maybe I should have known, but it never made a noticeable difference on my 1971 Plymouth Valiant. Back in those days, getting a half-worn pair of tires CHEAP was the only concern. Brand name or tread design was never an issue.
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I can’t believe I just read that...
This entire thread is about how mixing tire types degrades handling and increases the risk of losing control of the car. So then you go almost double the legal speed limit — in wintertime — to see how the car “feels”?
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They were idiots, putting the new studded tires on the front. Then they went out on the road and got wide on a turn. The tire shop I was at did make an issue of how important it was for new tires to go on the rear, and I was fine with that. There were signs for it also.
I knew winter tires had softer rubber, but I didn't think it'd be this big of a difference.
I can’t believe I just read that...
"At Tesla we don't make slow cars" -- Elon
From the Model 3 reveal video
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You can do it, but I wouldn't do it, and given the weird regen behavior reported on snow tires, I'd _definitely_ not suggest it in a Tesla.
Get another pair on.
I see. So you’re saying that Elon made you go 110mph on a public road with mismatched tires."At Tesla we don't make slow cars" -- Elon
From the Model 3 reveal video
Stop endangering the lives of those you share the road with. Fix your tire problem or stay off the road.
The whole concept of rotating tires....is that they wear evenly...extending the life of the whole set. You could potentially have gotten through the whole winter without even having to replace any of the tires.
Others have already posted not having issues running x-ice on all four corners. Your issue as already mentioned....is most likely mix matching all seasons and winters....causing an imbalance in handling.
It’s a shame the tire shop didn’t say anything. What kind of tire shop is it? In any event I wouldn’t go back or trust their work if they didn’t pick up on that or worst....aren’t knowledgeable. What was your car at Tesla service for? Anything related to the tires?
Things have come a long way since your 71 Plymouth...both in suspension setups and tire technology. What worked then has little relevance on new cars from today.
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Go back and re-read. I said a CLEAR stretch of OPEN highway. Meaning no other cars around. I'm not THAT big of an idiot.
What’s with the this “new vs old” or “front vs back” as being “ok or not”. It’s called “mixed vs matched”.
You are just as bad.
I don’t think I’ve ever bought 2 tires in my life (since 1976 I’ve maintained 2 cars with 2 sets each). Even as a kid buying used tires at the scrap yard on a RWD car I’d buy FOUR tires.
Oh BTW, there is this new thing called rotating your tires. Google it. Pretty new high tech stuff.
I’m starting think this thread is a troll.
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Go back and re-read. I said a CLEAR stretch of OPEN highway. Meaning no other cars around. I'm not THAT big of an idiot.
And that makes it ok?
All I see in this thread (among many others) is another statistic that’s gonna cause my insurance to go up.
I see that we have a fresh group of people here that aren't yet up to speed with timk255's schtick.
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