larmor
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Or b/w home and dropping kiddos off to school....But there is no Nürburgring, 28km high speed track, between home & work for most folks
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Or b/w home and dropping kiddos off to school....But there is no Nürburgring, 28km high speed track, between home & work for most folks
reality check:
model 3 = concept car, there are no specs on a production car
bmw you've offered are gassers, there is no comparison.
mod note: If this turns into a duplicate of the other BMW thread, I will be tempted to merge them. Hopefully content can stay separate and commentary can remain civil and informed.
get a 328i, do ED save 6%, plus discounts pretty sure it will be under 35k.
5.2s 0-60 good luck to base model 3.
2015 BMW 335i xDrive - Instrumented Test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 105 mph
2016 BMW 328i Automatic - Instrumented Test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.9 sec @ 99 mph
well model 3 is not out yet, so the best comparison will be against 70, and 70d.
70d:
Car and Driver
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.8 sec @ 101 mph
no data to back up 70, but 70 will be slower than D
the number doesn't lie, 70d barely matches 2016 b48 328i, let alone catch 335xi. now 335xi is no longer in production, 340xi is even faster.
next gen G series 3 class will be using carbon core frame, yes it has a mixture of carbon fiber and aluminum. being faster and lighter than the current 340i is given.
bottom line: stop saying model 3 is fast, when you have no idea what the competitors are performing.
any awd car at that price range eats p90d for lunch and breakfast plus dinner.
and dance circles around it on track.
2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 vs. 2015 Nissan GT-R NISMO, 2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S - Comparison Tests
0-100mph 15.8 sec where as p90d does in 21.8s not even on the same field.
I'm not sure that you can compare all models of 3 series (340, M3) to a base Model 3. I think a base Model 3 is going to be equivalent to a 320, AWD to a 328i, and there will probably be a performance version to compete with the 340/M3.
My last 2 cars have been 328 and 335's and after driving a MS, I've told the BMW dealer multiple times that I'm only considering a Tesla for my next car. If for some reason I can't get below a 5.3s 0-60 time with upgrades, I may reconsider a MS.
2015 BMW 335i xDrive - Instrumented Test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 105 mph
2016 BMW 328i Automatic - Instrumented Test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.9 sec @ 99 mph
well model 3 is not out yet, so the best comparison will be against 70, and 70d.
70d:
Car and Driver
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.8 sec @ 101 mph
no data to back up 70, but 70 will be slower than D
the number doesn't lie, 70d barely matches 2016 b48 328i, let alone catch 335xi. now 335xi is no longer in production, 340xi is even faster.
next gen G series 3 class will be using carbon core frame, yes it has a mixture of carbon fiber and aluminum. being faster and lighter than the current 340i is given.
bottom line: stop saying model 3 is fast, when you have no idea what the competitors are performing.
Cough.
Any EV is quicker in traffic than a ICE with identical 0-60 mph times. No transmission, RPM does not affect output, flat HP curve. Try it. A 10 second EV will trounce an 8 second ICE car in traffic all day long.
I get a kick out of BMW guys who don't believe BMW is past their prime. You know a lowly 2016 Camaro thumps nearly everything BMW makes right? And you really shouldn't play with the ATS-V or CTS-V. The last straw is the CT6 which will put the 700 series to bed.
In any case, the BMW i3 will be competing with the Model 3. Talk about bringing a knife to a gun fight...
Did you mean to post a different video? That one shows the Z06 beating the P90DL.
Not. Even. Close.
Didn't do any research, did you?