reality check: 328i, 335xi performance vs. model 3. how fast is 'fast'?

[BMW ///M3]

2015 BMW 335i xDrive - Instrumented Test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 105 mph

2016 BMW 328i Automatic - Instrumented Test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.9 sec @ 99 mph

well model 3 is not out yet, so the best comparison will be against 70, and 70d.

70d:
Car and Driver
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.8 sec @ 101 mph

no data to back up 70, but 70 will be slower than D

the number doesn't lie, 70d barely matches 2016 b48 328i, let alone catch 335xi. now 335xi is no longer in production, 340xi is even faster.

next gen G series 3 class will be using carbon core frame, yes it has a mixture of carbon fiber and aluminum. being faster and lighter than the current 340i is given.

bottom line: stop saying model 3 is fast, when you have no idea what the competitors are performing.

 

[pinski]

 

[BMW ///M3]

As Expected, Tesla Model S Fails To Lap Nurburgring Under Full Power

Tesla Model S Fails To Lap Nurburgring Under Full Power – Video

 

[Kalud]

But there is no Nürburgring, 28km high speed track, between home & work for most folks

 

[Jayc]

I propose we use this thread to post all youtube videos showing Model S outrun other muscle cars especially BMWs

 

[JohnSnowNW]

Again, as was stated when you posted this in a previous thread: You cannot compare the 70D to a 3-series, and certainly not the performance version of that series.

 

[pinski]

 

[esk8mw]

My last 3 cars: 335, M3 and M3

Current car: 90D

Next Car: Model 3

Next BMW or other gas car: Never

I was once exactly like you. Beating my chest about lap times and Ring times and other stuff that I eventually realized was pointless. M3s and other cars like it are on the way out. The M3 has already been super watered down - electric steering, turbos, piped in/fake engine/exhaust noise playing through the speakers, etc. Enjoy it while you can, I guess.

You'll come around eventually.

 

[gregincal]

no data to back up 70, but 70 will be slower than D

the number doesn't lie, 70d barely matches 2016 b48 328i, let alone catch 335xi. now 335xi is no longer in production, 340xi is even faster.

No data? How about the fact that you choose two numbers that in reality are useless to compare ICE cars and electric cars. ICE cars achieve these numbers by revving up the engine in "launch mode" in a way nobody ever does in real life. If you look at the 5-60 rolling start times you get a much more realistic view of how fast the car actually is (versus useless statistics that only matter at the track):

BMW 328i: 6.3 seconds
BMW 340xi: 6.2 seconds

Tesla 70d: 5.1 seconds

Stop saying BMWs are fast, when you have no idea what how people actually drive.

 

[BMW ///M3]

yea i suppose 5-60 is more "real life", two cars perfectly synced to exactly 5mph and press the accelerator at the same time.

 

[Kalud]

My last car was an heavily modded 335i (downpipe, jb4, methanol injection, air intake). The OP should talk to his old friend here.

I will never own a gas car again.

 

[pinski]

 

[TravelSD80]

Gregincal: You are so right! Nobody except testosterone filled teenagers or guys with size inferiority complexes would launch a car like they do in the 0-60 tests. 5-60 is much more real world, and there Tesla's take the cake. I have ZERO desire to buy a BMW. On the other hand, I'm drooling all over the floor at my Model 3.

 

[S'toon]

I see he's still comparing to the 70D.

How about comparing to the P90D.

Car and Driver:

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 2.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.1 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 21.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 1.3 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 1.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.1 sec @ 121 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 155 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 159 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g

2015 Tesla Model S P90D - Instrumented Test

 

[gregincal]

yea i suppose 5-60 is more "real life", two cars perfectly synced to exactly 5mph and press the accelerator at the same time.

Start from a stoplight at idle and the BMWs will be even slower.

 

[deonb]

The only Model 3 announced so far is the $35000 base model. So feel free to compare it to all BMW 3 series at or under $35000.

By all means, go ahead and tell us all about that BMW 320i speed demon.

 

[BMW ///M3]

any awd car at that price range eats p90d for lunch and breakfast plus dinner.
and dance circles around it on track.

2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 vs. 2015 Nissan GT-R NISMO, 2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S - Comparison Tests

0-100mph 15.8 sec where as p90d does in 21.8s not even on the same field.

I see he's still comparing to the 70D.

How about comparing to the P90D.

Car and Driver:

2015 Tesla Model S P90D - Instrumented Test

 

[pinski]

 

[kort677]

reality check:
model 3 = concept car, there are no specs on a production car
bmw you've offered are gassers, there is no comparison.

 

[BMW ///M3]

get a 328i, do ED save 6%, plus discounts pretty sure it will be under 35k.
5.2s 0-60 good luck to base model 3.

The only Model 3 announced so far is the $35000 base model. So feel free to compare it to all BMW 3 series at or under $35000.

By all means, go ahead and tell us all about that BMW 320i speed demon.