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Things break down quickly when nation states openly start using targeted assignations (you basically become Russia).

I think it is virtue signalling to say that it is better to send thousands or millions of people to cannon fodder instead of simply lining up the top ranking officials of both counterparts and performing a duel (literally or rhethorically) and seeing where the chips fall.

Ofcourse the "west" should not do in place of Ukraine, Ukraine's special forces can very well do it on their own.
 
I didn’t realize I had posted that story before. You have a great memory. In the book I have about his bomber group they don’t mention Gunn or cluster munitions so his plane may not have used that.

I didn't remember who had posted it, but I recalled reading the story.

The 5th AF under George Kenney had a creative engineering unit assigned at the top level. Gunn, who was a retired USN pilot, was tapped to lead it. Gunn was a colorful character and a case of the right person in the right place at the right time. Gunn was living in the Philippines and running an airline when the war started. His entire family were taken by the Japanese and spent the war in a concentration camp in the PI. He found himself in Australia when the PI fell and dedicated his life to getting back there and rescuing his family.

The bomblets may have been used up by 1944.
 
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Before the 2022 invasion, Russia occupied 7% of Ukraine (Crimea since 2014).

In 2022, during the invasion, Russia gained an additional 10.9% of Ukraine.

This year, 2023, Russia gained an additional 0.08% of Ukraine.

That's 17.98% of Ukraine since 2014.

This is what I think. On February 24, 2022, Russia thought taking the rest of Ukraine would be easy, just like how quickly Crimea was turned over to Russia in 2014 without a fight.

However, when it was clear that Ukraine fought back, Russia changed its objective to conquer the southern part.

Russia's Mercenary Wagner group was impatient and accused Russia of stalling for time.

Now, we know what happened to the Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin: Dead! Vocal people against Putin got into the habit of being dead even though the cause might be explained as "accidental."

After all the intensive Spring offensive from Ukraine to take back the lost land, the battlefield border is still very much the same.

It's a stalemate!

Stalemate is risky for Ukraine as the US and allies might get bored with an unending war.
 
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Before the 2022 invasion, Russia occupied 7% of Ukraine (Crimea since 2014).

In 2022, during the invasion, Russia gained an additional 10.9% of Ukraine.

This year, 2023, Russia gained an additional 0.08% of Ukraine.

That's 17.98% of Ukraine since 2014.

This is what I think. On February 24, 2022, Russia thought taking the rest of Ukraine would be easy, just like how quickly Crimea was turned over to Russia in 2014 without a fight.

However, when it was clear that Ukraine fought back, Russia changed its objective to conquer the southern part.

Russia's Mercenary Wagner group was impatient and accused Russia of stalling for time.

Now, we know what happened to the Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin: Dead! Vocal people against Putin got into the habit of being dead even though the cause might be explained as "accidental."

After all the intensive Spring offensive from Ukraine to take back the lost land, the battlefield border is still very much the same.

It's a stalemate!

Stalemate is risky for Ukraine as the US and allies might get bored with an unending war.
Oh no, not even close to stalemate. Lots of progress this year with shaping operations and territory.

Ukraine has recaptured control of vast swaths of the Black Sea during their counter offensive. This is in addition to the tremendous attrition they inflicted on the Russian war machine this year alone.

Ukraine will continue to make good progress as long as the West stands behind them. They continue to strengthen their military capabilities both exogenously and endogenously, compared to Russia. We will also witness Ukraine's rapidly growing products of their indigenous defense industry this winter.

Russia has awakened the sleeping Western defense industries of many nations who represent >50% of world GDP and whose defense output will be immense in a couple years.
 
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After all the intensive Spring offensive from Ukraine to take back the lost land, the battlefield border is still very much the same.

It's a stalemate!
Ridiculous! Lies, damned lies, and misleading statistics. This tally conveniently ignores Ukraine's major territory gains in 2022 (around Kiev, Kherson, and Kharkiv). In addition, it implies all the ground is defended equally without acknowledging that once the defensive lines are breached, Ukraine can gain large swathes of ground rapidly as they've done before.

In both Zaporizhzhia Oblast and Kherson Oblast Ukraine is very close to getting within conventional artillery ranges of Russia's vital transportation lines which would cut the land bridge to Crimea. Cutting the land bridge could quickly end the war. Russia knows how important this is so they've been throwing everything they've got to defend those first lines of defense. Which means things will be even easier for Ukraine once they break through. In addition, cities on the Sea of Azov are already in range of ATACMS missiles. The entire width of the land bridge is now in range.

Yes, going was extremely slow trying to cross Russia's main line of defense. Ukraine spent months and many lives manually removing mines in the dark of night. Those sappers had the highest rate of loss of any unit in the Ukrainian army. Disparaging their progress and trying to diminish it by framing their progress in the least useful way possible is disgusting.

A much more useful measure of success is artillery, which Stalin called the God of War. Artillery has caused the vast majority of deaths and injuries on both sides. At the start of the war Ukraine was vastly outgunned. But they have done such a good job at eliminating Russian artillery that finally, finally, for the first time in the war Ukraine is outgunning Russia with artillery. This is a true tipping point according to the Lanchester laws of war. Of course, this tipping point doesn't show up on the maps that were used to measure success. The stories you relate seem to consistently measure things in a skewed way that hides Ukraine's true successes.

This is all in addition to Ukraine's large gains in the Black Sea as @iPlug said. Russia had to evacuate their fleet from Sevastopol! This is ironic since supporting their naval base at Sevastopol was one of Russia's main military objectives of this war. This is a massive loss for Russia, right up there with the expansion of NATO triggered by this foolish war.

And then we have Ukraine's many successful attacks on military targets in Crimea and in Russia. Ukraine is planning to ramp up their drone attacks by a factor of one hundred! Ukraine is making significant progress on almost all fronts of this war. If this were truly a stalemate then Russia would be making just about as much progress in other areas. But Russia removed their one unit (Wagner) that was able to make progress on the battlefield and has been nearly stymied everywhere they now try to attack. Their winter offensive last year was a joke. The one thing Russia seems to be any good at at all is committing war crimes by murdering civilians and attacking civilian infrastructure but most of this has already been blunted by Western air defense systems.

On top of all this, F16s should be arriving in Ukraine early next year. These won't magically and instantly transform the war but it will give Ukraine another vital edge in the battles. One of the main reason's progress has been slow by Western standards is Ukraine lacked the air superiority the West normally uses to rapidly overrun enemy lines.

For Ukraine, this war is not about lines on a map. It is about freeing their people from the rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping of Russian occupation.
 
Ridiculous! Lies, damned lies, and misleading statistics. This tally conveniently ignores Ukraine's major territory gains in 2022 (around Kiev, Kherson, and Kharkiv). In addition, it implies all the ground is defended equally without acknowledging that once the defensive lines are breached, Ukraine can gain large swathes of ground rapidly as they've done before.

Kyiv (Russa prefers "Kiev) area was secured in 2022 when Russia withdrew to the south.

Kherson was recaptured by Ukraine on 11/11/2022.

Kharkiv was recaptured by Ukraine on 9/11/2022.

Those were all last year in 2022, not this year in 2023.
 
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Before the 2022 invasion, Russia occupied 7% of Ukraine (Crimea since 2014).

In 2022, during the invasion, Russia gained an additional 10.9% of Ukraine.

This year, 2023, Russia gained an additional 0.08% of Ukraine.

That's 17.98% of Ukraine since 2014.

This is what I think. On February 24, 2022, Russia thought taking the rest of Ukraine would be easy, just like how quickly Crimea was turned over to Russia in 2014 without a fight.

However, when it was clear that Ukraine fought back, Russia changed its objective to conquer the southern part.

Russia's Mercenary Wagner group was impatient and accused Russia of stalling for time.

Now, we know what happened to the Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin: Dead! Vocal people against Putin got into the habit of being dead even though the cause might be explained as "accidental."

After all the intensive Spring offensive from Ukraine to take back the lost land, the battlefield border is still very much the same.

It's a stalemate!

Stalemate is risky for Ukraine as the US and allies might get bored with an unending war.

Ukraine is not a stalemate. The western front in WW I was a stalemate, both sides were eating each other's armies with no real movement anywhere. Neither side ever had any momentum after the German 1914 offensive bogged down in northern France.

The Normandy Campaign in 1944 went much slower than expected, but it was not a stalemate. Throughout the campaign the Allies had the momentum, it was just a slow hard fight for every hedgerow. Eventually the Allies broke out of the hedgerows and the rest of the battle for France was the Allies running as fast as they could to try and catch the fleeing Germans.

Ukraine has the momentum. When Russia tried to flip the momentum they got hammered hard and lost the equivalent of around three tank regiments in only a few days.

On the other hand Ukraine has been making slow, but steady progress throughout the summer. And Ukraine has been doing an amazing job taking apart Russia's logistics. That's significant.
 
Kyiv (Russa prefers "Kiev) area was secured in 2022 when Russia withdrew to the south.

Kherson was recaptured by Ukraine on 11/11/2022.

Kharkiv was recaptured by Ukraine on 9/11/2022.

Those were all last year in 2022, not this year in 2023.
That is exactly what I said. Those Ukrainian gains in 2022 were ignored in the tally. These stories seemed to have very skewed counting that ignored gains made by Ukraine as much as possible. The stories paint a bleak picture where Ukraine never made significant gains. They did this by ignoring all significant gains made by Ukraine. Don't you see how utterly ridiculous and misleading that was? The technical term for this balderdash is "cherry picking".

You could use this technique to demonstrate almost anything. For example if you cherry picked just economic downturns then you could make a story that implies the US economy has been constantly declining since WW-2.

It's true that when you consistently ignore almost all gains made by Ukraine then the situation looks like a stalemate. But when you look at all the data fairly then it's clear Ukraine is winning which is why Russia is desperate to spin a false narrative that this is a stalemate so they can say in order to save lives there should be a truce (to give Russia time to re-arm, re-group, and recruit before launching another unprovoked attack).

It wasn't just Ukraine's significant land gains in 2022 that were ignored. Their recent winning of the crucial artillery battle was ignored. Their taking control of the Black Sea in 2023 was ignored. Their encroaching on Russia's vital land bridge was ignored and Ukraine's 2023 successes in attacking military targets in Russia and Crimea were ignored. The only thing that was not ignored was the one statistic that could make the uniformed think this was a stalemate.
 
That is exactly what I said. Those Ukrainian gains in 2022 were ignored in the tally. These stories seemed to have very skewed counting that ignored gains made by Ukraine as much as possible. The stories paint a bleak picture where Ukraine never made significant gains. They did this by ignoring all significant gains made by Ukraine. Don't you see how utterly ridiculous and misleading that was? The technical term for this balderdash is "cherry picking".

You could use this technique to demonstrate almost anything. For example if you cherry picked just economic downturns then you could make a story that implies the US economy has been constantly declining since WW-2.

It's true that when you consistently ignore almost all gains made by Ukraine then the situation looks like a stalemate. But when you look at all the data fairly then it's clear Ukraine is winning which is why Russia is desperate to spin a false narrative that this is a stalemate so they can say in order to save lives there should be a truce (to give Russia time to re-arm, re-group, and recruit before launching another unprovoked attack).

It wasn't just Ukraine's significant land gains in 2022 that were ignored. Their recent winning of the crucial artillery battle was ignored. Their taking control of the Black Sea in 2023 was ignored. Their encroaching on Russia's vital land bridge was ignored and Ukraine's 2023 successes in attacking military targets in Russia and Crimea were ignored. The only thing that was not ignored was the one statistic that could make the uniformed think this was a stalemate.
  • UKR lost land in some areas in 2023 and gained it in others. A stalemate implies no change in tactical advantage.
  • Choosing "2023" is cherry picking a timeline
  • Russian attrition is clearly much greater than that of UKR. That is the antithesis of a stalemate

If you look at the graph below, yes, Ukraine did get lots of land back in 2022 in blue. But that is before the 2023 Spring Offensive.

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For the 2023 Spring offensive, yes there is a thin sliver of blue, too, but not in any way as pronounced as 2022.

In 2022, no one heard about "Spring Offensive." That word became popular in 2023.

We are now in 2023, not 2022. "Spring Offensive" happened in 2023, so it is important to see how much land Ukraine took back in 2023.

Remember, even when counting massive gains back of land from Ukraine in 2022, Ukraine still needs to take back about 17% of Ukraine's land more which is still in the hands of Russia.
 
If you look at the graph below, yes, Ukraine did get lots of land back in 2022 in blue. But that is before the 2023 Spring Offensive.

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For the 2023 Spring offensive, yes there is a thin sliver of blue, too, but not in any way as pronounced as 2022.

In 2022, no one heard about "Spring Offensive." That word became popular in 2023.

We are now in 2023, not 2022. "Spring Offensive" happened in 2023, so it is important to see how much land Ukraine took back in 2023.

Remember, even when counting massive gains back of land from Ukraine in 2022, Ukraine still needs to take back about 17% of Ukraine's land more which is still in the hands of Russia.

It sounds like someone is trying to prop up Russia's past success to foreshadow it's upcoming collapse. It's imminent.
 
If you look at the graph below, yes, Ukraine did get lots of land back in 2022 in blue. But that is before the 2023 Spring Offensive.

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For the 2023 Spring offensive, yes there is a thin sliver of blue, too, but not in any way as pronounced as 2022.

In 2022, no one heard about "Spring Offensive." That word became popular in 2023.

We are now in 2023, not 2022. "Spring Offensive" happened in 2023, so it is important to see how much land Ukraine took back in 2023.

Remember, even when counting massive gains back of land from Ukraine in 2022, Ukraine still needs to take back about 17% of Ukraine's land more which is still in the hands of Russia.

If you looked at the land gained in mainland Europe between 1941 and 1943 you would think that the war in Europe was a massive standstill. The Allies didn't gain an inch of land between the fall of Greece and the invasion of Italy. But a lot happened during those years that contributed to the fall of both Italy and Germany.

Measuring a war by how much land is taken by whom is only measuring one metric. During this year Ukraine has been replacing their old Soviet equipped and doctrine army with a NATO equipped and trained army. Russia started the war with a staggeringly large stockpile of leftover Soviet equipment and ammunition. They have burned through most of that stockpile of ammunition and are drawing down the equipment reserves at an unsustainable rate.

Both Ukraine's allies and Russia are scrambling to build new ammunition. There is a lot of hand wringing in the west about how slow production is spinning up and how the Russians have out shot the Ukrainians in artillery until lately. But while getting good information out of Russia is murky, all the indications I have seen is that Russia is struggling to increase production. They have managed to increase production a bit by putting factories on 24/7 schedules, but finding workers has been a big problem. They also lack access to the machine tools necessary to expand production further. Who makes most of the machine tools needed? Germany. Even China buys most of their machine tools from the US or Germany.

And just measuring artillery by the number of artillery shells fired is a bad metric. At the start of the war Russian artillery was very inaccurate and relied on guys sitting there with a calculator figuring out each shot. Much the way their Soviet great grandfathers did 80 years ago (though they have upgraded from slide rules to electronic calculators). As barrels have worn, they have warped and accuracy has degraded even further. On top of that Russian artillery shells have a dud rate around 30%. Dimitri had a video published by a Russian artillery crew who were seeing none of their shells explode. They opened one and found they had no explosive inside. They were hollow.

I read somewhere last year that a "good" Russian artillery crew can hit a vehicle within 200 rounds. That's not only a heck of a lot of wear and tear on the barrels but it's also a waste of ammunition.

The Ukrainians started with the same Soviet guns but now are using NATO guns. NATO designed their artillery with the axiom of quality over quantity because they knew they couldn't match the Soviets in number of shells fired. NATO guns are designed to automatically calculate the firing solution. You tell the computer the GPS coordinates you want to hit, it knows where you are, and it gives you the firing solution in less than a second. NATO artillery ammunition has a very low dud rate. Ukrainian gun crews using NATO guns are hitting Russian vehicles within 2 shots most of the time.

So the Russians fire 1000 rounds in a day and hit 5 vehicles where the Ukrainians also fire 1000 rounds and hit 500 targets (vehicles or any other target of military significance). The Russians were causing a lot of artillery damage when they had the ammunition and guns to fire 50,000+ rounds a day. But they haven't been able to fire in that kind of volume for more than a year. They burned through their stockpile and now are just able to fire one day's production each day.

NATO armies are reluctant to give away all their supplies. The US especially needs to keep their force up to prevent China from making a move on Taiwan or North Korea to think they can take the South. The fact that either of those armies would likely have to face the full brunt of the US military if they went to war is contributing to keeping them at bay.

It's called a force in being. Having a large force that could be deployed anywhere needed on short notice is enough to keep potential enemies at bay. Britain kept a large force at Scapa Flow for most of WW II to ensure that the German surface navy didn't go to sea. Once the German surface fleet was eliminated as a threat, that British force was freed up to be deployed elsewhere.

Politics also plays a role in delaying supplies to Ukraine, but there is plenty of equipment left in the west. Russia is drawing 70 year old tanks out of storage and sending them to Ukraine while Ukraine is getting much newer equipment. US law does not allow any army but the US services to operate Abrams with the depleted uranium armor. Any Abrams drawn out of storage need to have the armor replaced before being sent to Ukraine. That's a quirk of US law that's not going to change any time soon. No US law is likely going to change for the next 14 months.

Where Russia is running out of reserve equipment there is plenty of reserve equipment left to give to Ukraine in the west. There are also sources that have not been tapped yet. Israel really needs US help right now, and Biden has a back that Israel could scratch. Israel's reserve tank fleet has a large number of upgraded M60s they will probably never use again. Their domestic tank production is enough to keep the IDF supplied with plenty of tanks for the foreseeable future.

It may take a few months to rehab those tanks, but sending them to Ukraine would be a big boost for Ukraine and Israel can get aid from the US in return. The old IDF M60s aren't as good as the Merkavah, or an Abrams, but they probably outclass most, if not all Russian tanks in Ukraine. For the roles tanks are serving in this war, they would be a big asset for Ukraine.

There are lots of untapped pools of resources in the west that haven't been sent to Ukraine while Russia has drawn down most of their own resources and to a large degree they are on their own for building more. If Russia had a decade of peace they could rebuild the army with a fleet of T-90s and BMP-3s, but they can't build anything fast enough while at war to make a significant difference.

Ukraine's progress is agonizingly slow on the front lines, but where it counts, Ukraine is winning.

If a war isn't won in a quick blitzkrieg, it develops into an attritional war. There may be some fast victories like the Battle for France, but what really counts in an attritional war is to either wear down the enemies ability to fight or their willingness to fight. Ukraine's willingness to fight is not going anywhere and as long as the west keeps up the flow, their ability will continue. Russia has a morale problem which is affecting their willingness to fight, but they also have a cultural thing about fighting that they will keep fighting as long as the boss tells them to. Even if it gets everyone killed.

To eliminate an enemy's ability to fight requires either destroying their factories (as the Allies did in WW II) or destroy their men and equipment on the battlefield faster than they can be replaced, which is what Russia is experiencing. The quality of Russian troops and equipment is degrading as the war goes on. Every time a pre-war trained soldier gets killed or severely wounded he is replaced with a conscript with barely any training. Every time a T-90 or BMP-3 is knocked out, it is replaced with a T-64 or a BMP-1. Every time an SP gun is knocked out or wears out, it is replaced with a towed gun or a gun of less capability.

Russia bought time by emptying their warehouses of all the mines and creating an absolutely mind boggling huge minefield all along the south. The Ukrainians have breached those fields in several places. Rather than just run pell mell into the gap they created, they are taking the time to expand the width of the breech. This will give them a safe space in the middle of the salient where MRLS systems can operate outside the range of Russian artillery. They are also expanding to spots that are more easily defended like high ground so the Russians can't counter attack and get very far. But to gain that high ground they need to take it from the Russians and fighting uphill isn't easy.

Ukraine is attritting Russia's ability to fight. Ukraine would like more western equipment, but they are doing well with what they have. Russia is running low on many things and the supply of new equipment is limited.
 
If you look at the graph below, yes, Ukraine did get lots of land back in 2022 in blue. But that is before the 2023 Spring Offensive.

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For the 2023 Spring offensive, yes there is a thin sliver of blue, too, but not in any way as pronounced as 2022.

In 2022, no one heard about "Spring Offensive." That word became popular in 2023.

We are now in 2023, not 2022. "Spring Offensive" happened in 2023, so it is important to see how much land Ukraine took back in 2023.

Remember, even when counting massive gains back of land from Ukraine in 2022, Ukraine still needs to take back about 17% of Ukraine's land more which is still in the hands of Russia.
You're right. That one cherry picked statistic makes it look like a stalemate. But you are ignoring all of the significant gains Ukraine has made in 2023 during the spring offensive. As we've explained over and over, no one who knew what they were talking about expected large fast land gains because Ukraine lacked the air superiority to make it so.

Instead, Ukraine focused on other areas: taking control of the Black Sea; waging a war of attrition against Russia's most formidable weapon system, their artillery; penetrating Russia's most imposing line of defense; crossing the Dnieper in multiple places in Kherson; and bringing the war to Russia with multiple successful attacks in Russia and Crimea.

The analogy @wdolson made with WW-2 is apt. The amount of land the Allies took on D-Day was a tiny, insignificant fraction of all the land they wanted/needed to get back. By your cherry picking process we would have to call the D-Day landings a stalemate or a failure. But the reality is everyone on both sides knew it was a success and it signaled the end of the war for Germany.

The obvious conclusion is that the percentage of land taken back at certain stages of an operation can be a god-awfully bad measure of progress or success.

Another WW-2 analogy would be to say the invasion by the Allies was a failure because they failed to take back the Hague in their attack by sea. You are doing the same thing by pretending the place where Ukraine did not put their main focus is the only thing we should use to measure their success. This video by Anders Puck Nielsen explains war of attrition versus war of maneuver:


Back in early July Nielsen explained that Ukraine needs to conduct a war of attrition before they can go full in on maneuver warfare. Yet you are pretending their main effort was the war of maneuver and you are ignoring their actual main focus which was attrition. Yes, the small land gains Ukraine made are significant but a big part of their purpose was to draw out Russian artillery and other equipment so it could be destroyed. This was a rip roaring success and you choose to ignore it.

Just like the Allies on D-Day, Ukraine has succeeded where they put their focus (attrition, Normandy) and have not succeeded where they didn't focus (maneuver, the Hague). You can pretend the Allies intended to invade at the Hague just like you are pretending Ukraine was focused on a war of maneuver but your make-believe games don't make these things true.

Just like the Allies on D-Day not everything has gone to plan. But in both cases the main focus, Normandy and attrition, have been successful.
 
I agree that we are not in a true stalemate. However the idea that Russia is running out of artillery and then has nothing except a nuclear threat seems wishful thinking. They have chemical and biological weapons that I think there is a 30% chance that they would use if they started losing major ground. More likely is that they are turning out new weapons but don't want to show their cards. It will take years to make safe roads through the minefields even if there is just a couple of guys left with AK47s.

And this all assumes the funding continues to flow regularly without missing a single beat.
 
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You're right. That one cherry picked statistic makes it look like a stalemate. But you are ignoring all of the significant gains Ukraine has made in 2023 during the spring offensive. As we've explained over and over, no one who knew what they were talking about expected large fast land gains because Ukraine lacked the air superiority to make it so.

Airpower would have helped, but the insanely huge minefields is what slowed down the Ukrainians the most. Ukraine was able to roll up a lot of territory in Kharkhiv last fall when conditions were right and they didn't have much airpower then either.

I agree that we are not in a true stalemate. However the idea that Russia is running out of artillery and then has nothing except a nuclear threat seems wishful thinking. They have chemical and biological weapons that I think there is a 30% chance that they would use if they started losing major ground. More likely is that they are turning out new weapons but don't want to show their cards. It will take years to make safe roads through the minefields even if there is just a couple of guys left with AK47s.

And this all assumes the funding continues to flow regularly without missing a single beat.

Everything is finite. Despite the vast superiority in carrier borne fighters the US enjoyed by the end of 1944, the USN still found there weren't enough fighters to fill out the massively expanded fighter squadrons they needed to confront the kamikaze threat. There were neither enough USN fighter pilots nor were there enough F6F Hellcats to meet the needs so they got a bunch of Marine carrier qualified and operated F4U Corsairs from the carriers. The Corsair was probably the best carrier capable fighter of WW II, but it had a lot of bad characteristics that made it hard to operate from carriers. For example the F6F had very gentle stall characteristics. It gave you plenty of warning if you were going too slow. The Corsair would be flying one second and dropping like a rock the next with no warning. That's not very comforting when trying to land on a postage stamp in the middle of the ocean. The Corsair also had a tendency to blow tires on landing more frequently than other carrier aircraft and they required more maintenance. The F6F was 90% as good as the Corsair and much easier to operate from a carrier so it became the standard carrier fighter.

But I digress. Any military can run short of anything. Russia started this war with a staggering array of artillery, but satellite imagery shows that the storage facilities are being emptied. Most of the guns left in the storage facilities today show signs of having the barrel removed. In other words they were stripped for parts to keep other guns in operation. Russia may have cobbled together some means of making some gun barrels, but they are almost certainly burning through them at a much faster rate than they can make them. Russia also lacks the metallurgy to make good quality steel for gun barrels. China lacks this tech too. Again the Germans are the world experts in this kind of steel making. The US makes this kind of steel too, under license from the Germans.

Despite starting out with a large number of guns, I think it's likely they are running low on guns at this point. Ukraine started specifically prioritizing guns back in May. They have very good intelligence on the Russians because there are a lot of people in Russia who have family in Ukraine and are sympathetic to the Ukrainians. I suspect Ukraine got word that Russia was concerned that their gun stockpile was running low and saw an opportunity to silence Russian artillery.

The Ukrainians are now firing more artillery rounds a day than the Russians. If Russia had the guns, ammunition, and had been hoarding it for a purpose, they would have used it in the battle for Adivka (sp). Russia knows their artillery is their most effective combat weapon. Earlier in the war infantry and tank assaults were started with an artillery barrage and the artillery at Adivka was pretty paltry. Russia may have ammunition piling up as their rate of fire goes down, but it's probably because of a shortage of tubes than any intent to hoard ammunition.

As for using some kind of weapon of mass destruction if Russia runs out of artillery, I don't see that happening. Xi Jingping has made it clear to Putin where the lines are. Nuclear weapons are definitely on the "no go" list. Chemical weapons are probably on there too. I'm not so sure Russia has biological weapons. They probably have some samples in a lab somewhere, but they probably don't have deployable bio weapons. One of the problems with bio weapons is that it's almost impossible to contain them. Especially bio weapons severe enough to disable an enemy army in today's medical environment. Anything easily treated would see Ukraine flooded with the treatment for that weapon in short order and then Russians would be dying of it in droves because they don't have access to the levels of medicine the Ukrainians have. If Russia wants to lose the war quickly, unleash a bio weapon.

Other world leaders may have told Putin that the red line he can't cross is using weapons of mass destruction. As much as Russia sabre rattles with threatening NATO, they really don't want NATO in this war. They are losing now to a country 1/3 their population working with an ad hoc array of weapons. The USAF alone could destroy pretty much every piece of equipment and sink every ship supporting the war effort in a few weeks. The Russians would probably shoot down a few aircraft, but anything that did score a kill would last about 30 seconds afterwards.

I'm not too worried about Putin unleashing weapons of mass destruction. If Putin is removed, there are some ultra warhawks who might go that route. But it's not a big threat today.
 
I agree that we are not in a true stalemate. However the idea that Russia is running out of artillery and then has nothing except a nuclear threat seems wishful thinking. They have chemical and biological weapons that I think there is a 30% chance that they would use if they started losing major ground. More likely is that they are turning out new weapons but don't want to show their cards. It will take years to make safe roads through the minefields even if there is just a couple of guys left with AK47s.

And this all assumes the funding continues to flow regularly without missing a single beat.
The feeling I get is that Russia is not, towards the end, going to start losing major ground but that they will be degraded to to the point where they can not support those holding the ground they have. It seems like Ukraine is participating in all the pinning exercises, probing to generate their own pinning effect and, most importantly, tearing up all the support well behind the lines. If they succeed, all the infrastructure that supports the lines will collapse in a spectacular fashion leaving Russia to leave on their own.

I do not do this for a living and thus it's just a "feeling".
 
You're right. That one cherry picked statistic makes it look like a stalemate. But you are ignoring all of the significant gains Ukraine has made in 2023 during the spring offensive. As we've explained over and over, no one who knew what they were talking about expected large fast land gains because Ukraine lacked the air superiority to make it so. [...
Airpower would have helped, but the insanely huge minefields is what slowed down the Ukrainians the most. Ukraine was able to roll up a lot of territory in Kharkhiv last fall when conditions were right and they didn't have much airpower then either. [...

Did these massive mine fields exist during when UKR broke through the Russian lines in Kharkiv?... Seems every military expert agrees that something like the F-16 would have made a considerable difference during this 2023 spring offensive...