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He only posts updates during the quarter because he wants interaction and likes and views. Otherwise it would be in his best interest to just wait until the last day of the quarter.
Agreed, you get the most up to date information the closer you get to the final day of the quarter. He has probably been more accurate, each quarter, than any analyst covering Tesla.
 
Troy’s been parading salty Tesla news the past few months. Here’s tonight’s gem:


I should send him a thank-you note for doing his part to help my short calls positions every other week 😎

BYD is going to sell more BEV's than Tesla very soon. I am not sure what it would do to the stock but we will see it all over the news. BYD has more factories and cheaper models that they sell in a more EV friendly market.
 
Does anyone else keep detailed metrics?

As of now, I had a 16.2% ROI on the money invested selling puts and covered calls. Of that, 12% came from puts, and 4% from CC. How did everyone else do for the year? Not terrible, but not great.
Portfolio is 43% up YTD, but I'll admit that if I had just HODL'd the year - as I entered 2023 with a substrantial TSLA position - then it would be closer to 85%, so it goes!

But TBH I was so over exposed on shares and beaten-up on the emotional roller-coaster with the drop from >300 to ~100 that moving to cash was a great relief

Looking now to rebuild that position, but without eating into the cash pile...
 
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Take a peek at OI shift ... c260 , c257.5 , p255 , c265 each picked up interest. Tallest call wall at 262.5, nearest tall put wall at 240, put call ratio 1.01 is about even. 255 seems to be the middle ground in terms of shift, maybe we hang around there the day? I'm out this session due to a morning through early afternoon commitment. Yesterday I didn't roll the -c257.5 to February 260/265. My thoughts are that if these have a chance to expire this week, that'd be ideal. Should we continue to climb I'd still have a shot to set and forget, deal with them then. Let's see what we get !


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Take a peek at OI shift ... c260 , c257.5 , p255 , c265 each picked up interest. Tallest call wall at 262.5, nearest tall put wall at 240, put call ratio 1.01 is about even. 255 seems to be the middle ground in terms of shift, maybe we hang around there the day? I'm out this session due to a morning through early afternoon commitment. Yesterday I didn't roll the -c257.5 to February 260/265. My thoughts are that if these have a chance to expire this week, that'd be ideal. Should we continue to climb I'd still have a shot to set and forget, deal with them then. Let's see what we get !


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I also usually wait until Thu/Fri if odds of expiry or a really low close-out look good, as this week, but yesterday’s net credit on rolling to Feb was so good, I decided to lock it in. Sometimes waiting to save on the btc cost can leave you with a reduced sto premium, if the SP or IV fluctuates down.
 
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I am thinking of starting to sell weekly covered calls on my position. Curious how you go about choosing which strike to sell. Thanks for your insights.
Big question is are you ok losing your shares at current prices, or are you a long term holder that is wanting a little extra money?
The only way to really lose money on CCs is to sell for a certain strike, regret it, and they buy back a losing position instead of rolling or letting the shares go.
If you are a long term holder, I would not sell for more than 0.2 premium, and try to wait for a green candle. 0.1 premium is even safer. If those go ITM, they shouldn't do it too badly, so you will have a pretty good bailout to Jan 2025 that raises the strike a lot and still gives you some income. Other option is just sell 400 or 450 strike CCs now for Jan 2025. If the SP is 500, you will still be able to roll them up and out another year (without income) to 500+.
 
OK, so I need to let this week play out (50x -p240, 100x -c240, 100x -c260), but after that I'm eyeing Jan 26th 270 strike, specifically 1:10 ratio straddles, i.e. 1x -p270 + 10x -c270

So given that I'm happy to let LEAPs go at 270 strike in case of >270, I see little risk and if SP is <270 at that moment, I can let the puts assign for a net share cost of around $45
 
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