CA state tax too, donchaknow.Shouldn't long term cap tax rate be like 35%? 50% is too much isn't it?
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CA state tax too, donchaknow.Shouldn't long term cap tax rate be like 35%? 50% is too much isn't it?
As far as I can tell Tesla is doing three things and none of them involve Elon giving free money to Tesla.
1) Tesla is issuing 1.4 - 1.7 Billion worth of new stock for $204/share (~6.8 to 8 million shares depending on if the underwriters want in on it.)
2) Elon is exercising his options he got a long time ago to buy 5.5 million shares for dirt cheap ($30 million or ~$6/share). With this Elon owns more of the company, while the company just gets a few bucks.
3) Because Elon just got a billion dollars worth of shares for $30 million, he has a huge capitol gain that he now owes 52% tax on (e.g. half a billion in tax). So he's turning around and selling half of those 5.5 million shares he just got to the public to raise money for his tax bill. As part of this he is donating 1.2 million shares to charity for a big tax write off.
So in total the public is buying about $2 billion worth of stock from Elon and Tesla. Of that $1.4 billion goes to Tesla and $600 million goes to the government via Elon. Tesla is only getting the $1.4 - 1.7 from the stock they're selling, plus a measly ~$30 million from Elon.
Tesla is worried about the optics of Elon selling shares because they don't want it to look like Elon is cashing out of the company, so they are emphasizing that he is increasing his ownership position. This is technically true but also misleading because his ownership is increasing but he's not pouring in more money like it sounds (except for that paltry $30 million). Elon is doing this now because rolling it into a single public offering sounds better than doing another public offering a few months to cover Elon's tax bill.
I agree it was consciously put in, but from a tax theory standpoint, it makes no sense that you get a deduction without ever claiming the income. But there is much about the tax code that makes no sense. Like AMT. All so complicated so as to hide special benefits or special costs to specific groups of people and make the tax code feel unfair to everyone.
Can anyone knowledgeable please answer this question? Are these new shares sold separately, or not sold yet?
Elon does not make ~$30M per year while shareholders are taking a bath like some auto companies.
Elon makes his money based on stock options tied to performance. This is absolutely the way to compensate executives.
I didn't. Cancelled my order when it won't fill. But I was using half to buy stock and was going to sell $250 strike.
Tomorrow morning, I will check the IV first before I go ahead with options, most likely, I will sell puts. But if premarket is anywhere near the $204 fib level, I will go for stock again.
So what's the strategy play behind this capital raise being done now? There must have been a compelling reason to do this down round.
On the one hand, if the projected deliveries in Q2 are met, that would have had a positive earnings and FCF positive in the books which would have organically raised the share price shortly after. Ideally, this would have been the opportune time to do the capital raise, with much less dilution. However, this can only happen after August 2Q ER and capital markets may be experiencing a squeeze then with the Fed's eminent intent to raise interest rates this June.
I don't know how the underwriting process works but perhaps the accessibility to capital must be of importance so they could have advised to do the raise sooner rather than later due to the Fed rate increase, with the huge upside to the investors to get in now in anticipation of a skyrocketing SP as early as beginning of June when the delivery numbers are announced. Additionally, with the accelerated Model 3 ramp, TM must really be in need of the capital much earlier than we thought.
Just my musings to try to understand what could have been the thinking behind this move. Perhaps others can opine differently or add to the rationale?
...now don't spend it on unnecessary projects like the snake charger.
I know that one share looks pretty much like all the other shares to us, but to the IRS they can be quite different. I assume (since Elon isn't an idiot) that he's donating stock that he has already held for at least a year, and not the newly purchased options. They're probably the same strike price, so he will get huge benefit by not paying CGT on the donated stock.Actually, I'm not sure Elon's really using the loophole your'e referring to.
1. He's exercising options that generate taxable income on the difference between the exercise price and fair market value of the shares (either at ordinary or long-term gain rates depending on how options structured).
2. He's paying a lot of taxes on that taxable income (that's what the share sale for $600 million is for).
3. However, he's reducing his actual taxable income by deducting the 1 million share donation at FMV.
This is no different than any other taxpayer that reduces their income by the cash amount of a charitable contribution.
The appreciated stock "loophole" allows you to completely avoid paying the capital gains tax on appreciated shares, yet deduct the full FMV of the stock.*
That's not the case with these shares (because his cost basis is the same as the FMV given that he's paying taxes now as described in step 1 above).
"Tesla raises $2B to stay afloat while Elon Musk sells his shares to stay rich!"
So you were the one.So much for Elon always saying he'll be the last to sell.
I don't see what is misleading about it. In the first sentence you correctly state what Tesla wants to avoid (the perception that Elon is cashing out), then in the second sentence you talk about something else (the perception that Elon is pouring money in the company).Tesla is worried about the optics of Elon selling shares because they don't want it to look like Elon is cashing out of the company, so they are emphasizing that he is increasing his ownership position. This is technically true but also misleading because his ownership is increasing but he's not pouring in more money like it sounds (except for that paltry $30 million).
Very well put. So, at the end of all these,
a) Shares diluted by 12.3 M (including Elon's 5.5M new shares)
Tesla's portion is only ~$2 billion total, so the gap there is about $1.6 billion. If that was the only item to fund, then between cash on hand, deposits, and ABL, that's easy. Likely this funding is for getting through 2017 capex.
Basically, it's the ramp for the 2nd phase of the Gigafactory ($350-400 million) + factory upgrades ($800 million) + service centers, initial parts, etc.
That's 12.3M/134M = 9.17% dilution. I'm not sure what's the offering price? If SP tanks tomorrow due to 9% dilution, will new investors buy shares at today's closing $211 or diluted stock price ($211*0.91=$192)?
That's 12.3M/134M = 9.17% dilution. I'm not sure what's the offering price? If SP tanks tomorrow due to 9% dilution, will new investors buy shares at today's closing $211 or diluted stock price ($211*0.91=$192)?
That's 12.3M/134M = 9.17% dilution. I'm not sure what's the offering price? If SP tanks tomorrow due to 9% dilution, will new investors buy shares at today's closing $211 or diluted stock price ($211*0.91=$192)?