First, let's start with your woefully misinformed thoughts on my 100kWh battery. I posted that not to discuss the degradation, but rather the P85D+ with a 100kWh battery provides significantly more range and a lot more fun. My car is now a P100DL+, which is a pretty rare beast.
Your 280 miles out of 315 when new is terrible degrading compared to others I’ve seen with high miles.
Your 100 battery already has 10% degrading and I guarantee you don’t have anywhere near 100K miles and maybe less than 50K miles. So clearly whatever you are doing ain’t working.
Again with the wild-ass assumptions. FYI, the 2016 100kWh battery had 286 miles of range when I put the battery into my car, and it's lost a couple of miles per year since then, which is totally normal degradation. So please don't assert "whatever I'm doing is wrong" -- because once again, you have no idea of the facts or what "I'm doing". How about just staying in your lane?
I also guarantee you have ludicrous
Of course I do, duh! Who wouldn't have Ludicrous if they could?
But if you did and than stopped after pushing the car hard in ludicrous for awhile when you stop and get out you could literally smell the batteries burning like a damn fire practically.
This is absolutely, 100% positively WRONG. What you're smelling are the brakes heating up from stopping a 2.5 ton machine on wheels. And you accuse me of not knowing anything? Wow. And I've run Ludicrous launch mode runs a dozen times in a row (in the hot summer) for friends, and never had any of the problems you speak of, nor did my battery degrade a single mile for months following. And the batteries weren't burning so bad you could smell it (the brakes were, though) . Where are you getting this from? Obviously it's not personal experience since it's clear you've never actually owned a Tesla, much less a P100DL.
Now that your little diversion over my battery is over, let's get to the actual meat of all your assertions. This is the fun part I promised.
Well if you’re so informed than you would know the range for 2014 P85D new is 242 miles.
LOL! See below to see who exactly is "informed".
I have about 8 or more with all different ranges of miles and everyone has experienced minimal range loss
Sure, it's "minimal" when your math is flat out wrong.
And today with over 90K miles he still gets 239-240 miles of range even tho it says 242 in
So please enlighten me why I just didn’t prove you wrong?
On the contrary, I will gladly prove you wrong -- WITH ACTUAL FACTS. Something your posts are sorely lacking.
The one simple fact you are painfully missing, and frankly I'm surprised you never found out in all your "research"
is that the actual EPA rating for the P85D is 253 miles.
You probably don't believe me, so here it is, directly from the government:
Fuel Economy of the 2015 Tesla Model S AWD - P85D. Compare the gas mileage and greenhouse gas emissions of the 2015 Tesla Model S AWD - P85D side-by-side with other cars and trucks
www.fueleconomy.gov
And here it is from Tesla's own website:
This has also been widely reported by the automotive media:
Get the latest on new Tesla models including spy shots, first drives, in-depth reviews, concept car photos, new features and more.
insideevs.com
Witnessing change in 36,000 miles, plus one really long road trip.
www.caranddriver.com
And, BTW, the max range for P85D on the highway is 265.5 miles. 253 miles is the combined City+Highway range.
The one "fact" your entire argument is loosely based on is the window sticker range of 242 miles.
But that was inaccurate and updated in January 2015,
just one month after the P85D was launched.
At that time, Tesla enabled a "deep sleep" mode for the motors, which greatly increased the EPA range.
And unless your 8 friends are still running firmware from 2014 (which is not even possible anymore without hacking), they all have the updates to enable 'sleep mode' and the updated EPA range.
And I can back this up with my own personal experience (can you?):
Here's my actual 100% charging graph going back as far as possible from Teslafi.com
You can
clearly see that my
actual rated range at the end of 2016 is 251 miles. That's after two years of driving -- just two miles of range loss. And the first two years are when batteries have the largest range loss, then it slows down as the car ages. And you can see at the end of the graph in mid 2019 the range is 245.94 (let's call it "almost 246"), which again, is totally normal degradation. If you follow the trend line to 2022, that would result in normal degradation for any P85D to be in the mid 230s. Just like your 8 friends and as I asserted in my first post above. So no, those 85kWh batteries have not had "hardly any degradation". In fact, they've had perfectly normal degradation.
So, dude, please go back and redo all your math using 253 miles as the starting point for range, and not the phenomenally mis-informed 242 miles you've been using all this time. Then get back to me. Oh, and let me know where I can collect that $1k you bet.
Are you willing to admit *you* were wrong?
I can tell you will try to make excuses but that *sugar* ain’t going to fly Marty McFly.
Oh look! I missed one more personal attack! That makes it 13 total!