Barklikeadog
Active Member
If the number is under 100, forecasters who say that 5000 by the end of the year from that factory is impossible will have a field day.
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Only problem is: I'm only concerned about 1 Tesla model which does not include the Model X or Model S or the roadster.
Those who want to get their cars soon should be able to get in line ahead of those who don't care.Agreed! OP, just let it go, and distract yourself with something else for a while like I did, lol.
Indeed its amazing that Tesla isn't developing many cars nor information. Its almost like they are back to building by hand. Its been over 18months since the initial reveal....right? I can't keep up anymore.
Personal Insults are going to yet you nowhere. ( ignored)From your statements I'm almost certain that you have zero background in manufacturing anything as you appear to have no idea of the tooling and set up process needed for automated manufacturing of this kind.
You used BMW as an example. When the current generation 3 series (F30) was released BMW did a big fanfare event where they drove about 20-30 of the cars out of the Munich factory and to their giant delivery center (also in Munich). Many of the cars were observed to have quite sloppy panel fitment, especially for BMW standards.
After that could you go in and drive home in a new 3 series? No. It was several months before there was any available volume and you could order a car and get it perhaps 1-2 months later.
Tesla essentially did the same thing. They did a very public hand off of about 30 "final" production cars because those cars were built in the final assembly area using final revision parts.
Real mass production is probably at least another month or two away and that will still be slow production by the standards of how many Civics Honda can crank out in a month.
No, Insideevs numbers is just estimate so we will probably don't know anything until October then Tesla realise the numbers,Will we actually know August "delivery" results? Unless Elon tweets it out? Tesla doesn't break down monthly sales, and the quarter doesn't end till next month, so no quarterly results till then either.
Agree. The assembly line will be in step-wise refinement. Patience is required!From your statements I'm almost certain that you have zero background in manufacturing anything as you appear to have no idea of the tooling and set up process needed for automated manufacturing of this kind.
You used BMW as an example. When the current generation 3 series (F30) was released BMW did a big fanfare event where they drove about 20-30 of the cars out of the Munich factory and to their giant delivery center (also in Munich). Many of the cars were observed to have quite sloppy panel fitment, especially for BMW standards.
After that could you go in and drive home in a new 3 series? No. It was several months before there was any available volume and you could order a car and get it perhaps 1-2 months later.
Tesla essentially did the same thing. They did a very public hand off of about 30 "final" production cars because those cars were built in the final assembly area using final revision parts.
Real mass production is probably at least another month or two away and that will still be slow production by the standards of how many Civics Honda can crank out in a month.
Agree. The assembly line will be in step-wise refinement. Patience is required!
March 2016 was the Reveal. Today, its 519 days later.
30 cars are "non power point" cars. We actually saw them.
How many more than 30 are out there - "non power point" ?
Its been 519 days.
Real question: How many more days would equate to patience in your view?
That's a real question from me. Not joking.
Indeed it did. Not sure how that changes the question.March 2016 showed a functional demo.
Indeed. I'm not sure how that answers my question.It's been 519 days since they showed a functional prototype.
March 2016 was the Reveal. Today, its 519 days later.
30 cars are "non power point" cars. We actually saw them.
How many more than 30 are out there - "non power point" ?
My parents wanted to buy a Audi Q5 a few years ago but it was 18 month delivery time on them, why didn't they just but up another production line and produce 10 000 car per day a month later so that they could meet the demand? Why will it take until 2020 before Volkswagen ID will go in to production, they should be able to set up production in a couple of days.Personal Insults are going to yet you nowhere. ( ignored)
We have no idea. I can understand you wanting to know, but since Tesla doesn't release monthly numbers I'm not sure what you were expecting. I guess I'm just a bit confused by the angst. We know they are producing cars, new cars have been seen during August at the factory. We know the number is low, the goal for August was only 100 cars. Beyond that it's an unknown, but we always knew it would be an unknown.
Indeed. I'm not sure how that answers my question.
Real question: How many more days would equate to patience in your view? 500 more? 100 more?
I don't think there will be any meaningfull information on Model 3 production/delivery before quarterly numbers early October. Some website may try to estimate it but their methods will likely be limited by the NDA that Tesla asks off those employees who took delivery already. August production may have been 20 or 200, I don't think we will ever know before it has become a small historical tidbit in the next Elon Musk biography. Personally, I am looking forward to the configurator opening up for the first batch of non-employees. If Tesla wants to meet end-of-October estimates this must happen somewhere (late) September.