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So Like it has been a month, and how many new Model 3s are out?
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Garlan Garner
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I understand that I am the only one wanting them to make these Model 3's quicker. Tesla needs to. Their Model S and X sales are saturating. There are only so many millionaires and people willing to overextend themselves beyond their paychecks. That's why I believe they are giving their Sales Managers bonuses to get cars out of the door.
Tesla offers $700,000 'bonus' incentive to its global sales and service head
Is that why they are giving discounts in stores to get cars out of the door?
Tesla offers ‘up to $30,000 showroom discounts’ and lowers interest rates to boost sales before end of the quarter
Lets all watch their 3rd quarter reports together. Tesla does not have another playing card. There isn't another official "money making" vehicle on the horizon.
I have $30K riding on it. Does anyone else? Is anyone else in here that committed and believes in Tesla that much? I put my money where my mouth is.
I'm also invested in SolarEdge ( as you can see) as that's what my micro-inverters are on my roof. See my solar progress.
Actually I have over $40K in tesla stocks now. Who's in with me?
Thank God they can shoot those rockets off frequently enough to hopefully exceed investors expectations. Solar isn't doing it. There are Tesla nay sayers out there in the investment market that are itching for Tesla to fail. They want Tesla to slow walk this thing called the Model 3 because they want to kill investors confidence. Not even Elon could calm down investor confidence.
Elon Musk calls Tesla's stock overvalued; shares drop
He thinks peoples expectations of Tesla are too high. I think so also, but Tesla needs to now MATCH expectations or bad things are going to happen.
Tesla needs Model 3 profit for their investors. Side bonus - I get mine.
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This is one of the more ridiculous things you've said. I'm sure everyone waiting on a car would like to get it quicker. I'd like mine today.
The difference is that you seem to be ignoring the laws of space and time. All car production has a ramp rate and huge assmebly lines don't come online at full speed. This is also the biggest thing they've ever done. It's FAR more important that they get it right than they rush a few more out right now.
I have worked on several programs that were completely driven by schedule. You end up with crap. Personally, I don't want crap.
Garlan Garner
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^This^
Garner, you don't seem to understand the physical and logistic realities.
This is a company that has never produced this many cars.
In addition it is a new model that is very different than anything they had previously designed or built.
They are also taking on the task and responsibility of building their own service, sales, and fueling infrastructure.
The task at hand for Tesla is incredibly challenging. It isn't like flipping a wall switch.
In addition, for the first time, Tesla has delivered, so far, on time. This was something no one expected, including Elon Musk.
Everyone wants to get their Model 3, but most of us have some level of comprehension of how difficult a transition this is for Tesla.
Garlan Garner
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Well lets give Tesla a pass. I'm in.
But first, let me put a trailing stop loss on percentage on my stocks.
The other things you said are irrelevant.
Most would agree with you that Tesla needs the Model 3 to do well.
They would also agree that speed does not equal success, if that speed comes at the cost of quality.
Garlan Garner
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I just said....lets give them a pass. they can go as slow as they want. I'm not being sarcastic.
Garlan Garner
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They have produced 30 cars. This we know. This is ALL we know. Its the first time they have met a date in..... We have to be able to agree on that.
The OP's question is: How many cars so far? Does Tesla owe an answer, no. Should they provide an answer IMO yes. This is their mass market product. Why not show investors that they haven't made a mistake "this time" on the dates thereby increasing investor confidence.
They seem to tweet about everything else. Why not success?
@Garlan If Tesla were transparent on all details of production, it would probably add to the volatility of the stock...and your anxiety. Are you sure you want that? You seem pretty anxious as it is (I would be too, if I had skin in the game). If Apple were transparent about the iPhone during the first reveal, it might not have been good for investors (since it couldn't even do what they advertised at the time, as it wasn't done).
Back to the actual topic... The Tesla Show reported the first sighting-that I'm aware of-of a VIN on the 200 range last night. We'd seen some 300, but those were RCs. These appear to be production, I believe.
Garlan Garner
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Garlan Garner
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bingo.
That's a great response.
However, I'm not anxious. I have just have skin in the game.
Garlan Garner
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I wish there could be some way for ELON to stop anti-selling the Model 3 and trying to convince people that he won't be driving one. We get it. Maybe thats why he isn't communicating about the Model 3. Any good news would drive up reservations....which they don't want.
The Model S and X reveals and initial production information was nothing like this. Tesla flooded folks with tweets and info. Even the faulty falcon wing doors on the Model X exuded more dialog from the Tesla side than the Model 3 has ever gotten from Tesla. Thank goodness for Electrek and Teslaratti and a number of podcasts and youtubers.....we have info.
Lets do an experiment. Go to Elons twitter page right now.
Tons of tweets about Space X, Hyperloop, AI, The Boring Company, Falcon 9, Battle in Michigan. the Eclipse. Where is there anything about the Model 3?
I had to go back to July 31'st where Elon initiated a post saying something about Model 3 ... and that was a post about an article that someone made about the model 3.
Oh well.......maybe I'll go buy one of those year long burgers Elon was talking about.
The Model S and X reveals and initial production information was nothing like this. Tesla flooded folks with tweets and info. Even the faulty falcon wing doors on the Model X exuded more dialog from the Tesla side than the Model 3 has ever gotten from Tesla. Thank goodness for Electrek and Teslaratti and a number of podcasts and youtubers.....we have info.
Lets do an experiment. Go to Elons twitter page right now.
Tons of tweets about Space X, Hyperloop, AI, The Boring Company, Falcon 9, Battle in Michigan. the Eclipse. Where is there anything about the Model 3?
I had to go back to July 31'st where Elon initiated a post saying something about Model 3 ... and that was a post about an article that someone made about the model 3.
Oh well.......maybe I'll go buy one of those year long burgers Elon was talking about.
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It's all a tempest in a teapot. They announce a new car, and everyone knows it will be a few years away. Lots of interest: What will it look like, what will it cost, what features and specs will it have? etc. The time gets close, the final reveal happens and a few token deliveries are made. Still going to be a few months before production really gets going, but now the anxiety goes into full gear: Will they meet their time line for deliveries, when will I get mine? etc. That's where we are now, tempest time: "They're not going to be on time!" "Mine won't arrive the day I expect!" "Why won't they tell us anything? They told us stuff about the Model S. They tweet about their rockets. Why won't they tell me stuff about my car?" And in a few months they'll be turning out cars by the thousands and we'll have reviews and test-drives, and the tempest will be over. There will be a well-established waiting period and the car will have a track record.
But for now, it's tempest in a teapot time. Some folks will sell their shares of TSLA out of frustration, others will buy shares in anticipation. And the interwebs will be filled with praise and complaints and groundless speculation of all sorts.
FWIW, I'm holding my shares of TSLA. I don't care what they're worth because they let me feel like I'm a part of a great project to electrify the roadways, and I think that in the long term Tesla is going places.
But for now, it's tempest in a teapot time. Some folks will sell their shares of TSLA out of frustration, others will buy shares in anticipation. And the interwebs will be filled with praise and complaints and groundless speculation of all sorts.
FWIW, I'm holding my shares of TSLA. I don't care what they're worth because they let me feel like I'm a part of a great project to electrify the roadways, and I think that in the long term Tesla is going places.
The rest of your post was based on a completely ridiculous premise. And most related to the stock, which I sold off a while back. At this point I think the stock price factors in a pretty successful Model 3. That's not to say it can't keep going up, I just don't think there's is much basis for it.
Almost every other car we know nothing about this process, we don't know that they built a few dozen, then a few hundred, then a few thousand. We'd just go to a dealer in January or February, and see they had a bunch of cars.
What may seem slow for Tesla is actually them being more open on the process than any other car company.
What may seem slow for Tesla is actually them being more open on the process than any other car company.
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