Starting to feel like Cybertruck is going the way of the Roadster: Vaporware

[BigNerd]

All this focus on trucks... full-sized EV SUVs is the next unexplored country!

#CyberSUV

 

[uscbucsfan]

By now Tesla should know what exactly the outside and inside of the truck will look like. They should also know towing and payload capacity across each version of the truck. Will all versions have the same payload capacity?

"Should", yet no information to the public on pricing, payload, range, or speed outside of the original announcement.

edit: Also that the prices will be higher, but by how much? We only speculate.

 

[coleAK]

Well I guess Elon is continuing his trend of claiming credit for odd obscure things from 1950’s to 1990’s vehicles.

Model X “suv” (Pontiac Aztec)

Yoke (mid 80’s Honda odyssey)

Now the boat (1940’s Porsche Schwimmwagen or better known 1960’s aquaticar)

But I wonder if anyone told him almost all trucks will float for a bit, the problem is without propulsion and a rudder floating is undesirable for water crossings…

 

[Earl]

the problem is without propulsion and a rudder floating is undesirable for water crossings…

surely, you saw the old videos of the Model S floating in a flooded underpass in Russia several years ago. The rear wheel drives acted as waterwheels (propulsion) and the front wheels steered (rudder).

 

[mongo]

surely, you saw the old videos of the Model S floating in a flooded underpass in Russia several years ago. The rear wheel drives acted as waterwheels (propulsion) and the front wheels steered (rudder).

And if it retains 4 wheel steering...

 

[coleAK]

surely, you saw the old videos of the Model S floating in a flooded underpass in Russia several years ago. The rear wheel drives acted as waterwheels (propulsion) and the front wheels steered (rudder).

The one that guy modded to drive under water but still on the ground? I can tell you from being in disaster response, military, and an avid off roader when vehicles float there is no control. As for a model s floating controlled, if it did happen in a one off they were extremely lucky. A controllable floating S is unlikely as I can’t imagine street (as in non-paddle tires) could generate enough thrust in the water to direct a 5k lb S and front wheels could direct water flow as a rudder.

 

[Earl]

The one that guy modded to drive under water but still on the ground? I can tell you from being in disaster response, military, and an avid off roader when vehicles float there is no control. As for a model s floating controlled, if it did happen in a one off they were extremely lucky. A controllable floating S is unlikely as I can’t imagine street (as in non-paddle tires) could generate enough thrust in the water to direct a 5k lb S and front wheels could direct water flow as a rudder.

No, the word (it was on the internet so it must be true was that it was stock. Clearly, this would not be a good idea to go out to try but it did, apparently, work. Note that I've driven a lot of boats from surfboards to 500+ ft ships, as well as done some off-road driving (on land) including fording some rivers. I definitely understand and agree with your concerns.
I would, of course, love to take some of the stress out of fording so a floating truck has some appeal. Since I almost always pre-walk any fording passes, I'd probably consider anchoring a rope to the one side or the other since one definitely wouldn't want a current to sweep one's truck away. The idea is still a bit crazy though.

 

[ThomasD]

It may float for a bit . But if the water carries you away from the road you could be in deep doo doo especially if it turns Turtle

 

[ThomasD]

One option I would to see is cameras on the top of the tailgate. So when the tailgate is down you still have a camera view for backing . The 2023 Ford pickups will have this feature.

 

[Beerimar]

And GM will have 15 more announcements for models that are coming soon without ever producing any of the previous ones.

Cybertruck will be here in mass next year.

This comment aged poorly considering people are already seeing Silverado EV prototypes driving around to test range, charging and road dynamics.

How many camo wrapped CyberTrucks have been spotted doing road tests?

The Silverado EV is based on the Hummer EV platform which absolutely has been released, since people have already started flipping them on BAT/C&B.

So yeah, GM, like Ford and Rivian are ahead of Tesla on the EV truck front.

I'd love a CyberTruck, but if the Lightning and R1T launch are anything to go by, all the day-one reservation holders aren't going to get any for a while anyway even when they DO start shipping them.

Current CyberTruck reservation holders will probably have to wait until 2025 to order their truck.

 

[Earl]

How many camo wrapped CyberTrucks have been spotted doing road tests?

If it is good camo, we wouldn't expect them to be spotted would we?

 

[NewbyMaybe]

In my case the delay might help send the money from the flippers to the alternatives, pushing my tardy reservation ahead a little.

 

[ThomasD]

surely, you saw the old videos of the Model S floating in a flooded underpass in Russia several years ago. The rear wheel drives acted as waterwheels (propulsion) and the front wheels steered (rudder).

That was short distance and the water wasn't really moving. I don't see a Tesla handling this very well. Someone will eventually die thinking their Tesla will float and they can power through water.

 

[NewbyMaybe]

If they can add an active tire pressure feature then maybe that air can be plumbed into the cabin so you can ride on the bottom when the sea is choppy.

 

[Earl]

Someone will eventually die thinking their Tesla will float and they can power through water.

People get in trouble all the time thinking their SUV can handle water too. They don't realize that the air intake is inside the wheel well, readily accessible to water.
As with all things Tesla, just get some popcorn and sit back. It will be an interesting show to watch or even participate in.

 

[Zer0t]

I had a reservation for the Ford lightening. I'm In Canada. I recently was told that I could now put money down and make it an order. They couldn't tell me how long the wait would be. Maybe a year was there guess. The price was too high for me. I think it was $80k Canadian for the mid trim truck. I declined and they gave me my $100 back.
I figure that the Tesla charging network is a large part of the value of a Tesla. It's hard to put a number on but let's say the charging network adds %20 to the value of a Tesla. So I'm my mind, the Ford would have to be an equal truck to the Cybertruck, and be %20 less because of the lack of a charging network. Of course I don't know what the price will be for the Cybertruck, but I'm thinking it will be similar in price or maybe a bit cheaper than the Ford. So to me, the Cybertruck is the better value.

Since the Cybertruck doesn’t exist you cannot make a relative value comparison to something that does with know price and features.

 

[ThomasD]

I doubt the Cybertruck will cost less than a Model Y

 

[coleAK]

I doubt the Cybertruck will cost less than a Model Y

I’m going say no way a CT is going to cost less than a Y. Given this a bare bones dual motor CT will be at least $70k USD.

 

[Ther0ck]

I’m going say no way a CT is going to cost less than a Y. Given this a bare bones dual motor CT will be at least $70k USD.

Model X pricing territory !

 

[coleAK]

Model X pricing territory !

Not even close. A model X starts at $120,990

Model Y starts at $65k.