Why should Tesla follow the same brain dead thinking of legacy auto? It is clearly a stupid idea to deliver a car in the middle of winter to a snowy area that is hours away from the customer’s home with summer tires. This puts undue inconvenience on the customer to change the wheels immediately upon delivery. Ridiculous. How about delivering the damn car with winter wheels already on them? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here that this isn’t the obvious solution to people. Tesla already offers multiple wheel options for each car. They can damn well offer a winter wheel option that is installed from the damn factory.
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Summer tires in the middle on winter?
- Thread starter luginewo
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What tires did you expect? Weren't the tires described in your order? Perhaps it is a stupid idea to take delivery of a performance vehicle with performance tires in mid winter. If they offered delivery with winter tires, would you then be willing to pay for the more expensive summer tires when summer is here? If the conditions are really bad at delivery, wait to drive it home when conditions improve.
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Maybe that should be an option. Where you order the car with winter tires and it's delivered that way. But the car was delivered with what you had ordered, correct? They didn't let you order the winter tires and put the summer tires in the trunk on delivery day?
Well I was stupid but not for the reason you think. I stupidly thought they would deliver the car to my house like they did multiple times before and I could switch to winter wheels in the comfort of my garage or drive slowly a mile down the road to the tire shop. It wasn’t until the order was made and I talked to the rep about setting up home delivery that I learned they didn’t do that anymore and I would instead have to pick it up hours away. Would’ve been nice to see some kind of notice on the order page that home delivery was no longer available. Thanks Tesla.
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I thought they would deliver it to my home like my other two Teslas. I didn’t realize that home delivery was no longer an option and that I’d have to pick up the car hours away and drive it back until after the order was placed. Would’ve been nice to see it as a warning on the order page.
Just seems like if they can already provide multiple wheel options from the factory with the 19” and 21” they can offer one more option for 19” winters as well. They have 3 wheel options for their other cars so there isn’t any reason to not offer a third wheel option for the plaid as well.
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Home delivery I don't think has been an option for many years. Both my older cars were delivered that way before and it was very nice to have but not sustainable long term of course.
They should be able to provide wheel options from factory. You maybe pay extra but have winter wheel setup delivered on car. They you order your summer rims and tires later. I'd give that feedback to Tesla.
Well I did get my last one delivered in Dec of 21. That was a few years ago but people don’t always upgrade their cars yearly so there’s no way I’d know the option disappeared unless Tesla informed me in some fashion which they didn’t. I don’t think it’s unreasonable that they keep a warning on their order page for at least a few years so we don’t order thinking home delivery is a thing when it isn’t. To find out afterwards when they already have your non-refundable order fee is messed up. Sorry just venting.
I didn't realize it was that late they still did that. I just got my new car so my first modern Tesla delivery experience since 2012.
They should state that on order page prior to deposit. My guess is 99% of people buying these days didn't know that ever existed though.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Just schedule your delivery day for a day when it’s at least 40 degrees and dry, and you can drive home on the summers. 
TBH, I inherently don't disagree with you. I thought it was pretty dumb to sell a car in Ohio on summers and not all-seasons, especially in winter months.
Tesla is constrained by two things on this issue. One, the tires available in the speed ratings required. Keep in mind the current all-seasons on the LR are not speed rated for Plaid, a quite obvious liability issue for the inevitable tire blowout lawsuits. In fact, they just went from a W rated tire to a lower V rated tire, probably to squeeze out a little more range. But with some purchasing and engineering resources, they could get a manufacturer to provide the tires and overcome this.
Two, and probably the more significant issue, is adding more SKU's to their inventory channel for this purpose. The combinations of the options of 2 models, 5 exterior colors, 3 interior colors, 2 wheel options, and 2 steering options means they have 120 possible Model S SKUs in their channel inventory of relatively expensive cars. To add an All-Season or Winter Tire option for the Plaid models adds 60 SKUs to a model line that has been selling at around 10K-12K units a year. You could say "just build it to order" but customers won't like true build-to-order timing, and no matter what you will have to deal with cancelled orders, priority changes, the wrong car with the wrong options at the wrong place in the wrong time. People and dollars would be required to deal with it.
Could it be done? Sure, it can be done. Is it worth it to do? Tesla's assessment appears to be no. We may not like it, but hard to say it's not a logical assessment.
I would think a checkbox for winter rims (additional cost) would work. Tesla would make sure car arrived with its summer tires on it and the winter rim set would also be at service center. You'd inspect the car and then they'd drive it to service back a few feet and put on winter rims.
Agree that this is better, and is essentially what Tesla has now. Honda is big in "dealer installed options" for this reason.
mspohr
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When I bought my S, I bought a set of winter tires and wheels. They offered to put these on at delivery.
I don't think they can change the tire configuration of a new car. The tires they take off of your car would be considered "used" so they couldn't resell them to someone else as new.
Just buy a winter tire set. They'll install them.
E90alex
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I drove 10+ hours through a snow storm over 2 mountain passes on summer tires to drive home my Golf R purchased out of state. Not ideal but it made it. Just go slow (I wasn’t comfortable going over like 30 mph) and leave LOTS of space to brake and turn.
I’ve found the pirellis that come on the 19s to be especially bad in snow even as far as summer tires go. Michelin PSS and PS4S I could at least drive a short distance if extremely careful. The pirellis were basically uncontrollable above 10 mph with even a light dusting.
E90alex
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