Ariya and ID4 are showing idential WLTP range on UK web sites - 310mile for larger battery single engine option. the nissan has slighlty longer wheelbase and battery. typically VW and Nissans are not cross shopped, but these 2 seem like they could be. pretty hard to justify either Ariya and ID4 when crossshopping a Tesla M3 at the same price. a lot easier to justify either Ariya and ID4 if wanting a model Y style at model 3 price.
One thing to keep in mind, the European range test (WLP) does not match EPA range and is usually more optimistic than EPA results. I've found I can actually achieve EPA range with normal, but careful driving. Inside EVs compared the two among EVs for sale in the US this year Here Is What A Comparison Of EPA/WLTP Range Ratings Reveal I checked the EPA site and neither the Ariya nor any Volkswagen ID cars are rated yet. If they are rated 310 on the WLTP, they might test around 280 miles with the EPA if the pattern holds. The announced changes to the Model Y will likely drop the price a fair bit. The new cast aluminum parts will simplify construction and eliminate production steps. Those will likely come first in the next few months. Later next year will be the new battery pack with longer range. Manufacturing Model Ys in China and Europe will also drop the prices there. Unfortunately for Australia, there are no home built cars anymore and all cars are more expensive there. Though Chinese built Model Ys might be cheaper than American made ones.
I haven't read enough about the Nissan Ariya to feel confident that it is a volume car, but given what Nissan did with the 2nd-gen Leaf, I imagine the Ariya will also follow the volume strategy. That means that within a few months we could have several volume EVs in the compact SUV space. Y, Mach-E, ID.4, and Arriya. Cool! I hope that multiple volume entries in the market will result in a serious uptick in sales - as well as general awareness of EVs as a viable option. This is what I have been hoping to see for many years. Of course we are still dependent on proper marketing and effort by dealers. We aren't out of the woods yet. But the fact that the automakers put so much into offering these cars leads me to assume that they are working hard on the other factors as well.
Nissan Ariya appears midway in size between Qashqai (Rogue) and X-Trail. Due to cost pressures, Its going to be very difficult to sell a car with 90kWh battery if people compare it their own brands equivalent ICE cars. But on the bright side for Nissan, people cross shopping a Ariya with whatever other EV(excluding Tesla), will find it a challenging car to beat, particularly if they live in a country that allows 3 phase 22kW phase chargers at home.
There are countries that routinely have 3 phase going into people's homes? I didn't know that. EVs will start to really win out when people are cross shopping EVs with ICE. Tesla was the only brand that was getting any of that. All other EVs were in the EV ghetto. Main stream car makers are beginning to make compelling EVs now, but not all are high volume production cars and the cost is still a fair bit more than equivalent ICE in most cases.
The Porsche Taycan Outsold the 911, 718, and Panamera in the U.S. Last Quarter. Porsche's third-quarter U.S. sales report contained a surprising statistic: For the first time, the all-electric Taycan outsold the 911, 718, and Panamera. Oct 2, 2020 electrification is starting at Porsche for sure
It's Europe Spec, for instance France and Germany. I'm in Australia and we don't, but even the smallest business premise will be 3 phase.
EPA is easy to achieve in our model 3. BUT BUT BUT, we live in the interiour of BC. So max speed limits usually around 90 KMh or occasionally 100 KMh. Many times below 80 as every little town slows you down. That and I run my tires 10 percent over because they just "feel better". 46 PSI Probably going through them faster as a result. Meh.....
I know 220V is common in much of the world. I wasn't aware of 3 phase in homes. Interesting. I haven't done anything with 3 phase since school (I'm an Electronic Engineer), but I think it's relatively common in industrial applications here. Driving around the local area I tend to drive on surface streets or low end highway speeds (usually around 100 KM/h). Getting EPA range is fairly common for me too.
Higher tire pressure wears less. Too high a pressure usually causes excess wear in the middle part tread. Too low a tire pressure can cause the outer part of tire tread ware AND can cause rims to get bent more easily. So read your vehicle manual (tire info too) to find proper tire pressure range - single driver is a lower weight and four or five people on a trip you might well want to increase tire pressure to maximum. Keeping track of tire ware is always a good idea. Shows proper if tire pressures too low or high. AND can show when wheel alignment needs adjustment (very rare in modern cars - unless you really bang into something and bend a suspension component. Yes, I keep my tires inflated to the maximum to keep ware down. Side note: I realized I have mention fuel economy 23-25 mpg city and 36-7 hyway. What I forgot to mention was that is at 55 mph - President Nixon era trained me when he set max. speed to 55 mph on fire oil embargo. When limits went back up, I realized how much I could save. Used to drive a lot. 10-12 hour days. enough rambling from me - good luck
Much the same for me. I have always exceeded EPA efficiency in local driving, by a lot. Like where you live, the speed limits are lower here, with highways at 60 mph (97 km/h) and everything else much lower. The nearest freeway is 160 km away. I also benefit from the thinner air and lower drag of altitude; the lowest I get in local driving is about 1740 meters and I live much higher than that.
Like VW Group, GM still seems serious about EVs: G.M. Accelerates Its Ambitions for Electric Vehicles I'll be interested to see how things shake out over the next couple of years.
I am sure they will still be interested, just like they were interested and planning to bring in 10 models and 1 millions EVs on the road by 2020.
Did anyone actually believe that? The auto industry dinosaurs move slowly but are necessary for an eventual transition to EVs, IMO. GM, at least, seems serious about the EV transition. Whether they can convince their dealers and the car buying public, in the USA, to go along, remains to be seen. Perhaps the rapidly expanding DCFC networks will help with public acceptance. Europe is is forcing the issue with zero emissions regulations. China, the largest car market, is doing much the same; being a totalitarian state, what the central government wants, it gets. If auto companies want to participate in those markets they will need to make EVs. (I realize that Porsche is a niche player but I read recently that the Taycan has been one of their best sellers.) Having been driving EVs for nine years, I think the shift to EVs is finally starting to show a bit of momentum. Perhaps you are right and I am wrong about that.
I’m hopeful that in the near future EV’s will prevail, several countries around the world are calling for no ICE cars by 2035. The battery technology is advancing and that will mean smaller, cheaper and longer range so once electric cars become affordable people will buy them.
I think the balkanization of fast charging networks is one thing that's going to hold back the legacy car makers. There is such a wide variety of DC charging power levels, quality of service, and providers - each with a different way of doing things. No matter which brand of gasoline you buy, the fueling experience is pretty much the same with only minor variations. Figuring out how to pay and activate the charger can be a different experience at each charger. The auto makers need to put pressure on the charger companies to standardize their service or the pain of figuring out how to charge away from home is going to be a barrier to purchase. Charging at home or near home is going to become an issue too. There are experiments in curbside charging and a lot of condo and apartment complexes are putting in a few chargers. Work places are too. However scale up to EVs becoming the majority and every parking spot is going to need an EV charger. That's going to require running a lot of electrical services where they have never been run before and it will put new strains on the grid. Adding supply is not that tough. Mid-term the problem can be handled with running peaking plants more often and the supply of renewable sources grows every day. The big problem is going to be in the middle of the distribution stream. The existing transformers and distribution stations will have to be beefed up to handle the increased loads. That's going to cost a lot of money and nobody is doing much about it right now. Down market the poor tend to drive the cast offs other people don't want. As ICE become unpopular lower emission ICE will move into the bottom of the market. But they will still be driving ICE. If autonomous taxis do become a thing, urban poor may be able to ditch their cars, but the suburban and rural poor are not going to have that luxury. By 2035 sales of new ICE will probably be small, though there will probably be a specialty market for places EVs don't go very well (extreme back country places with no electricity or only minimal electricity available). We still have horses doing jobs for which ICE are not well suited, though again they are niches compared to ICE. The average car on US roads is 12 years old. That means half the cars on the road are older than 12 years old. As cars got more reliable and prices of new ones got more expensive, the used market continued to grow. It's going to take a long time to clear the ICE out of that chain. EVs today are a couple percent of the market and we may hit a resource shortage for battery ingredients in the next couple of years. The resource thread had a video with a South African resource expert who pointed out there is a glut of battery ingredients today, but the mines are not able to expend due to the low prices and at the current rate of growth, the glut will be gone by the end of 2021. The supply situation will get sorted out. There are enough raw materials to ultimately do it, but we may see the growth of the EV sector slow down due to a shortage of raw materials. Tesla will likely be impacted in their ability to expand, but during the shortage the rest of the industry are going to have difficulty building many cars at all. That could become a perilous time for them if consumers are demanding EVs but there is a shortage of raw materials to make the batteries. That's probably when some car makers will go out of business. It will be a form of Osbourning, consumers will want a product they can't deliver enough of rather than what they are delivering. I don't think it will be 2030 before EVs get to 50% market share, even if demand is there, neither the material to build enough batteries, nor the infrastructure to support them will be there. The US is struggling to keep its bridges from falling down. The investment to support mass EV use is going to be slow in coming. People draw comparisons between the transition from horses to cars and from ICE to EVs. But horse ownership in 1900 had very different demographics from car ownership today. In 1900 New York city had 130,000 horses and Chicago had 74,000. The US population was around 75 million with 21.5 million horses. The US today has about 320 million people and 287 million vehicles. Private horse ownership in cities was not common in 1900 because people didn't have the means or space to keep them. Most urban horses were commercial or government owned. Except in New York City, car ownership among city dwellers is very common today. Horses are slow, require daily maintenance (feeding, healthcare, exercise if not in use, etc.) Horse manure and urine were a major problem in cities at the down of the car age. "Tail pipe emissions" was a euphemism for horse waste. My father was born in 1920 and he remembers talk of how cars were pollution free. Replacing all the ICE is going to take time. Some European cities are creating ICE free zones in their urban cores that may work during the transition, but getting rid of ICE is going to take more time than people think.