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So we have 2 Teslas under Tesla Insurance - for the last 9months or so. Great price (40% cheaper than the Allstate insurance we were on for 15+ yrs).

Labor Day weekend - had a flat tire (2 nails - one of them a big screw) going on freeway about 30miles away from home (and heading out). Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ with only 10K miles on them. The screw was big enough to leave a large hole in the tire and went flat instantly. Was going freeway speed, but so glad the car instantly notified of flat tire (pressure loss) - slowed down to a stop on the right hand side. Tried to put in some air but no avail - big hole. Called Tesla Insurance. So below are the experiences I had.

* First called Tesla roadside assistance. It took about 5-8mins to get someone on the line. After a check, they said I am out of warranty (& yes I was) and upon telling them I have Tesla Insurance, they asked me to call them (on hindsight, I should have done that first - but the Tesla phone# displayed on the dashboard was too convenient to ignore. Tesla should integrate Tesla # to take care of both - they are not integrated it looks like).
* Called Tesla Insurance #. On hold for about 5mins and then I get a guy (not the same people do that do Tesla Roadside-they should a lot more in-tune than this insurance person).
* He asks me to spell my name, my street number/name etc - as if he isn't really looking for my data in a database, but was actually filling out a form type question (that was weird). After taking down every detail including my Tesla Insurance policy# (which is a LONG number and they want it full from first letter), he connects me to Tesla Roadside Assistance - yes, back to the same people that I talked to first. Now we are at 20+mins in, family sitting in the car next to freeway (a bit concerning). It was 104 (yes, bay area had a heatwave) outside, but AC in car was a savior.
* So now, Tesla Roadside department guessed that they can bill me, and I can claim it with Tesla Insurance - perhaps that is how it works (she didn't know), and I somehow didn't clarify with the Tesla Insurance agent whether that was the right approach. Anyhow, Tesla Roadside assistance told me that they cannot help me if I am on the freeway/side, as it could be hazardous for them (well, it is for me too and I want to get out of it). they asked me if I can drive slowly to the next exit (that was my only option to get service from Tesla roadside assistance). That was 3/4th mile away, and I drove on the shoulder (right side) slowly at 10-15mph. A cop car stopped me (rightly so) and confirmed that my tire was flat, and they were nice enough to give me protection from behind as I rolled along slowly - concerned that I might be damaging the tire completely and perhaps even my wheel :-(. Finally got into the exit and parked near a shop. By then, they had informed a roadside service van my way (said it would take 1.5hrs). Glad this was in Bay Area and so they could have a Tesla service van. I took an uber ride to a lunch 10mins away (with family). The Tesla service was top notch. They called when they reached the car - told me they would put me on a loaner (wheel+tire) - as they didn't have the same tire model and that I could then return the loaner to any service station when I replaced with a new tire. They put my wheel+tire in the trunk (glad that was empty - we were not on a road trip).
* I returned from that trip and replaced the tire (had to replace the rear set as they couldn't be on uneven wear) - with Costco road hazard insurance (partial refund for the damaged tire), I paid $450 for two Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires for the rear. the punctured tire wall was fully damaged (from the inside the rubber wall had crumbled) - but totally saved the wheel from any damage (not even a scratch). Good job Michelin and good job Tesla on the wheels being strong.
* I then returned the loaner to the service station.
* I then called back Tesla Insurance (who had no record that I needed a roadside assistance for a flat tire) to open a claim (for the cost of the tire replacement due to flat on the freeway). That was 2weeks ago - and they had said an adjuster will call me back (hasn't yet happened).

So basically, I am a bit concerned on some aspects.
(1) Tesla Insurance depended on Tesla roadside assistance and they apparently do not help if you are stuck on the freeway? I hope that is not the general case and it was perhaps a mis-informed Tesla roadside assistance person (though she was very friendly and helpful).
(2) The phone call process is very slow - no quick check on computer, no integration with the Tesla mobile app. Once you are out of Tesla warranty and you only have Tesla Insurance, you go away from a very modern and integrated experience to a very archaic (like paper-based) old-school Tesla Insurance service - that is very inexperienced compared to other insurance companies.
(3) I almost feel like I want to keep a AAA roadside assistance membership just for these flat-tire type situations - just something dependable that I am used to.

I know that Tesla will improve the Insurance product over time - and they are treating it like a little startup, but given the service is available in California and California has the largest Tesla fleet, they should fastback the backend integration and claims process improvement quickly. Yes - they got the money - and they are spending - they just shouldn't leave Tesla Insurance behind. I would want Tesla mobile app to handle all insurance process.

Should we not have a separate forum/folder for Tesla Insurance related discussions?

Thx
PN, San Jose, CA.


I thought the same thing while I was reading about your experience: you can't beat AAA Premier service. There is no whining about the freeway. They do take 45 minutes or so, but at least they show up. I feel like insurers are charging a lot for my model 3, maybe because of the high cost ($59,000), but maybe because it is a weird new world for them and they are unsure of the car itself. I was considering Tesla Ins. for the latter possibility. I was going to look into it. It sounds like the price is right, just archaic service. Thanks for posting that. I'd like to hear some more Tesla Insurance experiences.
 
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I had the same unfortunate experience with Costco on my non-Tesla all-wheel-drive SUV, except Costco refused to repair tire (<15k miles) and was pushing to sell 4 new tires with a one-tire partial credit. Discount Tire saved the day with a free repair. That’s why I bought my Model S tires there (but do watch that they use the jacking pucks!)
 
I had the same unfortunate experience with Costco on my non-Tesla all-wheel-drive SUV, except Costco refused to repair tire (<15k miles) and was pushing to sell 4 new tires with a one-tire partial credit. Discount Tire saved the day with a free repair. That’s why I bought my Model S tires there (but do watch that they use the jacking pucks!)


Probably a good idea to keep pucks in the car...
 
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Sorry to hear about this.

Your experience is what I feared would happen and have been waiting for the stories to roll in.

In terms of costs some people like yourself seem to be saving substantially, others were way higher and some were break even.

My bigger concern with Tesla insurance was going to be the customer service and support. From what your saying so far it’s not good.

In my case Allstate was the same as Tesla. Even if it was less Tesla is still unproven. Cheaper insurance is always available; but there’s generally a cost / trade off.

Even though I have roadside on my cards and policy I still keep AAA again to customer service and proven reliability. The minimal cost and extra flexibility.

Hopefully Tesla comes through in this for you and the rest goes smoothly.
 
I have 21st Century and State Farm. With the multi car and home insurance discount, I found the Tesla Insurance was less than 10 dollars different from my current policy, about 650 for 6 months.

Not worth the risk of having the same level of care I get with Tesla Service...
 
Just on the topic of insurance, we've been Geico customers for over 10 years. When we traded in our Nissan Leaf for a Tesla, the premium almost doubled. Tesla Insurance was not an option since it is only available in California. We got some quotes, others were similar to Geico, but Progressive was below what we have been paying for the Nissan so they are our insurance company now.
 
It’s all just a roll. When I got my first 3 it was cheaper than my 8 year old Audi 7 series. The agent was surprised how low the rate was but it’s what the computer spit out. He said that cinched his decision to replace his ICE with a Tesla.
 
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I can’t believe they told you to drive on a flat. Someone must have misunderstood and thought maybe you were in an actual lane in a freeway and not a shoulder of a freeway. Tesla roadside had no issues picking me up there when I needed it.
Being stopped along side a freeway with narrow shoulders is dangerous. Driving slowly on a flat may do some damage to the tire (likely) and wheel. So getting off the freeway is the smart thing to do.
 
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So we have 2 Teslas under Tesla Insurance - for the last 9months or so. Great price (40% cheaper than the Allstate insurance we were on for 15+ yrs).

Labor Day weekend - had a flat tire (2 nails - one of them a big screw) going on freeway about 30miles away from home (and heading out). Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ with only 10K miles on them. The screw was big enough to leave a large hole in the tire and went flat instantly. Was going freeway speed, but so glad the car instantly notified of flat tire (pressure loss) - slowed down to a stop on the right hand side. Tried to put in some air but no avail - big hole. Called Tesla Insurance. So below are the experiences I had.

* First called Tesla roadside assistance. It took about 5-8mins to get someone on the line. After a check, they said I am out of warranty (& yes I was) and upon telling them I have Tesla Insurance, they asked me to call them (on hindsight, I should have done that first - but the Tesla phone# displayed on the dashboard was too convenient to ignore. Tesla should integrate Tesla # to take care of both - they are not integrated it looks like).
* Called Tesla Insurance #. On hold for about 5mins and then I get a guy (not the same people do that do Tesla Roadside-they should a lot more in-tune than this insurance person).
* He asks me to spell my name, my street number/name etc - as if he isn't really looking for my data in a database, but was actually filling out a form type question (that was weird). After taking down every detail including my Tesla Insurance policy# (which is a LONG number and they want it full from first letter), he connects me to Tesla Roadside Assistance - yes, back to the same people that I talked to first. Now we are at 20+mins in, family sitting in the car next to freeway (a bit concerning). It was 104 (yes, bay area had a heatwave) outside, but AC in car was a savior.
* So now, Tesla Roadside department guessed that they can bill me, and I can claim it with Tesla Insurance - perhaps that is how it works (she didn't know), and I somehow didn't clarify with the Tesla Insurance agent whether that was the right approach. Anyhow, Tesla Roadside assistance told me that they cannot help me if I am on the freeway/side, as it could be hazardous for them (well, it is for me too and I want to get out of it). they asked me if I can drive slowly to the next exit (that was my only option to get service from Tesla roadside assistance). That was 3/4th mile away, and I drove on the shoulder (right side) slowly at 10-15mph. A cop car stopped me (rightly so) and confirmed that my tire was flat, and they were nice enough to give me protection from behind as I rolled along slowly - concerned that I might be damaging the tire completely and perhaps even my wheel :-(. Finally got into the exit and parked near a shop. By then, they had informed a roadside service van my way (said it would take 1.5hrs). Glad this was in Bay Area and so they could have a Tesla service van. I took an uber ride to a lunch 10mins away (with family). The Tesla service was top notch. They called when they reached the car - told me they would put me on a loaner (wheel+tire) - as they didn't have the same tire model and that I could then return the loaner to any service station when I replaced with a new tire. They put my wheel+tire in the trunk (glad that was empty - we were not on a road trip).
* I returned from that trip and replaced the tire (had to replace the rear set as they couldn't be on uneven wear) - with Costco road hazard insurance (partial refund for the damaged tire), I paid $450 for two Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires for the rear. the punctured tire wall was fully damaged (from the inside the rubber wall had crumbled) - but totally saved the wheel from any damage (not even a scratch). Good job Michelin and good job Tesla on the wheels being strong.
* I then returned the loaner to the service station.
* I then called back Tesla Insurance (who had no record that I needed a roadside assistance for a flat tire) to open a claim (for the cost of the tire replacement due to flat on the freeway). That was 2weeks ago - and they had said an adjuster will call me back (hasn't yet happened).

So basically, I am a bit concerned on some aspects.
(1) Tesla Insurance depended on Tesla roadside assistance and they apparently do not help if you are stuck on the freeway? I hope that is not the general case and it was perhaps a mis-informed Tesla roadside assistance person (though she was very friendly and helpful).
(2) The phone call process is very slow - no quick check on computer, no integration with the Tesla mobile app. Once you are out of Tesla warranty and you only have Tesla Insurance, you go away from a very modern and integrated experience to a very archaic (like paper-based) old-school Tesla Insurance service - that is very inexperienced compared to other insurance companies.
(3) I almost feel like I want to keep a AAA roadside assistance membership just for these flat-tire type situations - just something dependable that I am used to.

I know that Tesla will improve the Insurance product over time - and they are treating it like a little startup, but given the service is available in California and California has the largest Tesla fleet, they should fastback the backend integration and claims process improvement quickly. Yes - they got the money - and they are spending - they just shouldn't leave Tesla Insurance behind. I would want Tesla mobile app to handle all insurance process.

Should we not have a separate forum/folder for Tesla Insurance related discussions?

Thx
PN, San Jose, CA.
They couldn't just call a tow truk for cash, and got you to safety? Technology run amok!
 
I was very unpleasantly surprised when I bought a 2013 MS last year that it didn't have a spare tire. I live on Maui and it can take hours to get a tow truck and then many more before a simple flat tire is repaired and replaced. So, I bought a "Modern Spare" as described earlier (about $500 including shipping to Maui) and it's a perfect fit in the frunk.(see photo). I haven't had to use it yet, but the comfort of knowing it's always with me is priceless!
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I was very unpleasantly surprised when I bought a 2013 MS last year that it didn't have a spare tire. I live on Maui and it can take hours to get a tow truck and then many more before a simple flat tire is repaired and replaced. So, I bought a "Modern Spare" as described earlier (about $500 including shipping to Maui) and it's a perfect fit in the frunk.(see photo). I haven't had to use it yet, but the comfort of knowing it's always with me is priceless!
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too bad this is not compatible anymore since 2015, only a small subset of aging model S'. Dual motor frunk is tinier and does not fit
 
I always feel more comfortable with a space in the trunk, let alone full size with same wheel.

If Tesla offered one at purchase I likely would have got one.

That said I don’t feel I need to buy one either to keep in the car either.

If I went more times outside of metro areas where it could take many hours to get a tow truck, maybe.

The other thing I think we and others could consider would be a low speed, low range, compact unit. That might be worth wild for all:most owners to keep in the trunk.