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Tesla Model 3 Performance vs BMW M3 - The Mic Drop
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brucet999
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Perhaps not as "brave" as you suggest. Professor Dahn's research has resulted in fast testing protocols using very precise measurement capabilities which, when run on battery chemistries of known long-term performance, produced predictions that have correlated closely with real-world performance.
The mic dropped a little further yesterday with the $2900 price cut, improved acceleration, and increased top speed. Even if BMW M3 is a "better" car, is it $8500 (or $12250 with tax credit) better?
Absolutely not. Specially if you count BMW's notorious unreliability and super expensive repairs and maintenance. Everyone I know that's owned a BMW has had major powertrain issues. Leave you on the side of road issues not minor in cabin problems like fuel pumps going out, cylinders not firing, transmissions that died, big oil leaks, etc...
I know Tesla takes heat for including fuel cost savings in their online configurator but if you are considering a car for a daily driver (which the Tesla can be) then it makes sense to me:
For instance vs BMW M3: At 58k base price now, the P3D is $12250 cheaper (base), has AWD vs RWD, does 0-60 in in .7s second faster and saves about $9000 over 5 years in fuel costs if you drive 15k miles per year. So given fuel and base price costs the P3D is $21250 cheaper to own over a 5 year period as a daily driver. That is a pretty stark difference.
vs the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio the price difference is even more stark: About $30045 more to drive daily over 5 years of ownership.
This is also excluding maintenance costs, and depreciation, which we think will be another P3D advantage.
See BMW M3 2019 pricing/specs: 2019 BMW M3 Reviews | BMW M3 Price, Photos, and Specs | Car and Driver
See Quadrifoglio pricing/specs: 2019 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Reviews | Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Price, Photos, and Specs | Car and Driver
I really wish Tesla would take out some ads pointing out how bad they spank the sport sedan segment.
Based on how badly they are crushing the competition in that market segment, I don't think they need any ads.
You know this and I know this, but they should be trumpeting this in the channels that gear heads who may not be so aware frequent. I think articles like the motortrend track mode review go a long way.
Tesla Model 3 Performance Track Mode (Release Version): Ludicrous Handling - MotorTrend
Model 3P also has standard features that are extra on the BMW M3, including:
Carbon fiber spoiler $795
Parking distance sensors $750
Blind spot detection/warning $500
Driving assistance package $500
Metal pedals $275
Total $2820
So the difference compared to the base 3P is $11,320, before fuel savings, tax credit, etc.
Carbon fiber spoiler $795
Parking distance sensors $750
Blind spot detection/warning $500
Driving assistance package $500
Metal pedals $275
Total $2820
So the difference compared to the base 3P is $11,320, before fuel savings, tax credit, etc.
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TexasTeslaRacing
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Appears all model 3’s are reviving a 5% power increase via OTA update later this month. Might shave another tenth off the 0-60. Top speed increase to 162mph for free.
Tesla will increase power of entire Model 3 fleet in upcoming software update
Tesla will increase power of entire Model 3 fleet in upcoming software update
To be fair a performance is NOT 310 range.
With 20” wheels it would Probably 280 or so if EPA measured it.
Knightshade
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Also to be fair AP isn't "free" it's been reduced from a $3000 option to a $2000 mandatory addition.
It's also probably not fair to have been listing the carbon fiber spoiler as "included" on the Tesla since most P buyers sure didn't get one included when they took delivery
It's also probably not fair to have been listing the carbon fiber spoiler as "included" on the Tesla since most P buyers sure didn't get one included when they took delivery
Also to be fair AP isn't "free" it's been reduced from a $3000 option to a $2000 mandatory addition.
It's also probably not fair to have been listing the carbon fiber spoiler as "included" on the Tesla since most P buyers sure didn't get one included when they took delivery
Actually AP is free. Model 3 Performance pricing didn’t change when they removed SR and LR RWD from the website. Still $59,500.
Yeah, I should have put in parenthesis (available for install after delivery; though most haven’t received yet and those that did are waiting for a replacement cause the first batch was defective).
JeffK
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JeffK
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Aw man don't remind me... I've got some PTSD and an upside down auto loan.
