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Discussion in 'Model S' started by RScottyL, Jan 16, 2017.
No... No we can't.
Fobless entry is just as important as the addition of equalizer sliders. Even more so in my opinion.
I think the Model X and its key use Low Energy Bluetooth to communicate with each other. If that's true, it would be a fairly easy task to have the phone (or smart watch for that matter) replace the key.
The Model S uses older technology though (at least for now).
Really? You would rather carry around that stupid fob before giving up two addition sliders?
Is this a 'fish without a bicycle' analogy?
No, more relevant than fish and bicycles.
This seems like a big to-do over (almost) nothing to me. People have been doing this a lot for years with push button cars. If your key was in the wife's purse and you drop her off, and drive off - you are now in a very similar situation with no key. I had a coworker who just bought his first push button car and several times already he has driven off without a key.
Granted, when you do this in a push-button car, it warns you the key is not present, and you can leave the car running if you have to before you return for the key (so he wouldn't have been stranded by the dog-seat adjustment incident). Not sure how to keep a model S "running" once you get out of the seat.
I am just surprised that someone who lives in the desert would be caught off-guard by no cell signal areas. We have lots around where I live, so I never count on having cell signal.
Something similar happened to me in my wife's Escalade. She had come home and I hoped in her car when she pulled in driveway to run to grocery store. When I left grocery store I realized my wife still had the keys since the Escalade said key fob not found. Luckily the grocery store was only a few blocks so I ran home and all was good. Doesn't look like this guy had as much luck as I did. Not sure why you would depend on your phone to start your car when your in such a remote area. I also worry about little things like this too much to not bring my keys when heading out of town.
Heck, I just leave my FOB in the car. Always. Did it when I had keys too.
OK bring it on........
I'm not going to address the security concerns that you are obviously expecting flak over. I'll just point out that you are going to run the battery in your fob down very quickly.
Never thought about that one Andy. So inside the car, it's in a more active mode? I suppose that would be the case outside but within range as well? I need to possibly come up with a plan B. (I juts hate carfying keys, which I inevitably lose.). Thank you for the tip and no flak.
Yes, my understanding, though I have never tested this myself, is that the fob uses a lot more power when kept in close proximity to the car.
If you are dead set on keeping it in the car, you could probably put it in some sort of Faraday cage, and remove it when you need to use it.
Why is there an article and a discussion on some pudding head forgetting the keys to his car?
I don't think that that's right.
1) Cell service isn't universal so the ability for an app to start the car creates a new potential problem. If Tesla cares about its owners it's reasonable to do something about it. Simplest solution would be a popup message after an app start if there's no key in the car.
2) It's fob, lower case. the definition of fob
You can tell he's a guy who takes responsibility for his actions because when he screwed up it was his wife that ended up walking 2 miles through the des... er... never mind.
You wouldn't be fobbing us now, would you?
If it's not relevant to you, then go read something else. There's no need to be insulting.
"...Negri used the Tesla mobile app to start the car at home, and didn't bring his keys; but when he had to stop and restart the car to adjust a dog seat, there was no cell service, so the start-with-phone method was useless. "
Can we talk about the fact that his dog has a 'dog seat'?
There's one other option no one mentioned. All he needs to do is carry one of these around instead of his fob...
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Then if there's no cell signal he just opens the lid, gets wifi from the satellite for both his phone and the car, then starts the car. It's a little bigger and heavier than the fob but it works.
Or if one really, really insists on keeping a (spare?) fob in the car, why not just take out the battery and store/hide it separately somewhere else in the car (or keep the battery in your wallet?) IIRC, you need to at least have a weak battery in the fob for the car to recognize it, e.g. putting the fob at the base of windshield to unlock the car. My understanding is that a fob with no battery installed won't unlock the car. Storing a spare fob and battery separately this way might have solved the problem mentioned by the OP, yet still be somewhat secure