3s-a-charm
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Funny we were there a few weeks ago and valet parked but this wasn't available yet. Good idea.
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Hugh Mannity
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I attended the Reynolds Alberta Museum History Road car show this past weekend. Weather could have been better, but it was still a decent event. They brought out their 1920 EV (Detroit Electric), and it posed with the Tesla's. This event welcomes car clubs, and it would be pretty awesome to have a dozen+ Tesla's show up next year, if others are interested.
Hey Tesla AB Crew,
This is my first post but I've been a long time lurker of TMC. I'm interested in getting a Model X for my family in the next couple years. I'm having my garage renovated in August so I thought I'd drop in a NEMA 14-50 for my future EV and future proofing in general. I contacted 24/7 Electric here in Calgary and they were great to work with but the quote definitely came out to more than I thought it would.
My panel can handle the added room for the NEMA 14-50 (and even 100 amp from a HPWC if I want) but they have to fish 80' of 3/3 copper wire from the panel to the side of my garage that I want the plug. They also have to cut some drywall in my basement to fish the wire through. The quote for the NEMA 14-50 comes out to be $2,400. If I want to switch it to a 100 amp HPWC later, they would charge another $572 at that time and of course, I would still have to buy the HPWC, so it would be over $1,000 to switch to 100 amp HPWC.
He said Tesla requires them to use certain wiring and procedures, which drives up the price. That's fine, I'm all for safety but I just wanted to gauge if this price is reasonable or not. I'll probably go through it but I guess it was a bit discouraging seeing how these installation costs will be a barrier for EV adoption. A tax credit for this installation (like QC does), would be helpful.
Let me know your thoughts and if this is reasonable given your experiences in the AB area. Thanks.
This is my first post but I've been a long time lurker of TMC. I'm interested in getting a Model X for my family in the next couple years. I'm having my garage renovated in August so I thought I'd drop in a NEMA 14-50 for my future EV and future proofing in general. I contacted 24/7 Electric here in Calgary and they were great to work with but the quote definitely came out to more than I thought it would.
My panel can handle the added room for the NEMA 14-50 (and even 100 amp from a HPWC if I want) but they have to fish 80' of 3/3 copper wire from the panel to the side of my garage that I want the plug. They also have to cut some drywall in my basement to fish the wire through. The quote for the NEMA 14-50 comes out to be $2,400. If I want to switch it to a 100 amp HPWC later, they would charge another $572 at that time and of course, I would still have to buy the HPWC, so it would be over $1,000 to switch to 100 amp HPWC.
He said Tesla requires them to use certain wiring and procedures, which drives up the price. That's fine, I'm all for safety but I just wanted to gauge if this price is reasonable or not. I'll probably go through it but I guess it was a bit discouraging seeing how these installation costs will be a barrier for EV adoption. A tax credit for this installation (like QC does), would be helpful.
Let me know your thoughts and if this is reasonable given your experiences in the AB area. Thanks.
Lon12
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I used Panel Upgrade Experts for our 14-50 install. They were able to fish the wire without cutting any drywall in our finished basement. Also only about 20' of wire from my box to the middle of the garage. Charged $550 not including the city permit charges.
Thanks, appreciate it. I'm going to call them to schedule an estimate then I'll compare the quotes.
I've never heard of "certain wiring and procedures" before and in any case, the electrical code is what should apply. There is a whole thread on HPWC elsewhere on this forum with pages and pages of information - and some pretty good advice. I don't recall anyone saying that these chargers needed any wiring or procedures other than what is required by code.
Unfortunately, I can't recommend my original electrician as they didn't appear to know the code either and I had to have them modify the installation to make it meet code after the inspection.
Thanks. I should have asked for more details about these 'Tesla requirements'. He mentioned something about requiring copper versus aluminium (I think) but that's all the details I got. As recommended, I've scheduled an estimate with Panel Upgrade Experts on Monday so I'm interested to hear what they say and I'll go from there.
I used Paul at Panel Upgrade Experts and was VERY happy with the service and work. Exactly on time, SMS messaging of appointments etc. Work was neat and clean and seemingly top quality. The city permit and inspection (Calgary) added quite a bit to the bill. We did the NEMA to start (with 100A wires) then changed to the Wall Charger.
3s-a-charm
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For a smaller operation you can also try Mic from All-Electric. (403) 971-5105
He did my garage and knows how the HPWC works and what is required. He is also quite an EV fan. I'm pretty sure he did work for a few people on here but not everyone was thrilled. I found him good.
He did my garage and knows how the HPWC works and what is required. He is also quite an EV fan. I'm pretty sure he did work for a few people on here but not everyone was thrilled. I found him good.
beeeerock
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First thought... do you need 80 (72) amps? I suggest 'not'. 40 amps is plenty to get you filled up overnight. That in turn determines ampacity of wire and #3 is likely whopping large (and expensive and difficult to pull).
Lon12
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I just noticed that Sun Country Highway has put in a charger at the Days Inn Edmonton Airport in Leduc. Can someone drop in and take some pictures of it for PlugShare?
SMSMD
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Called electrician for HPWC installation in Edmonton, he quoted CAD 1,500/ which includes 40 Feet #3 wire, 3 Feet conduit, 100 amp breaker , Tesla specified installation, labor and inspection with certificate, I have no clue if its reasonable or not any thoughts are welcome.
Presumably this was an electrician recommended by Tesla? this seems to be a pattern with recommended electricians. Not sure either what "Tesla specified installation" means. might pose these questions in the HPWC thread to see what others think but while Tesla may be accumulating some best practices, these installations should not require anything more than wiring to code. That being said, I can't say if this is a bad price or not as my price was built into other electrical work and in any case my electrician messed up. I do vaguely recall that relatively long runs can really push the cost up, presumably this gauge (#3) is fairly expensive.
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