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I don't see why Tesla would have purposely taken it out of service mode when taking it for more service, and the ability to turn off remote access is hardly a secret trick that only Tesla can do. The most likely explanation is that remote access is off. That said, the other explanation is that...

As a matter of course, Tesla disable remote access whenever a car is in for service. They also tend to unplug dashcams. Without root access there's not much you can do about it. (and even with root, they still unplug the dashcam)

Mine is not a pure sine inverter, it's a 1000w inverter, I can't remember the brand (and would have to take a wheel off to check) It was something I picked up at Canadian Tire (large all-purpose hardware/housewares/automotive supply chain here) I used 4 AWG wire directly to the 12V battery posts...

IMG_20170813_111245 by green1 posted Aug 13, 2017 at 11:15 AM IMG_20170813_111312 by green1 posted Aug 13, 2017 at 11:15 AM I didn't take pictures of the post behind the fender though (sorry)

Inverter outlet in frunk

Inverter outlet in centre console

Custom parcel shelf lifter

The immoral part is implying that the car will ever be capable of driving itself without human intervention while not providing the hardware necessary to do so. But hey, they got away with making false claims on AP1, so why not do it again on AP2? I'll be shocked if "full self driving" ever...

No, I'm not mixing it up at all. It is BOTH perfectly legal, AND you'll get away with it. You on the other hand are mixing up "I personally disagree with you" and "it's illegal and you'll be punished", you see these 2 things are VERY different, and just because you hate me doesn't mean I'm...

I was wondering how long it would take, I didn't think it would be the first reply though! ah TMC... the only car forum on the internet that is outright hostile towards car enthusiasts. Go look at the forums for ANY other car, and most of the content is on how to modify the car. This forum...

Clear yes, Also completely irrelevant as nobody is talking about a company swapping safety related stuff, or even installing any aftermarket parts. We're talking about toggling a software setting that Tesla left in there. Completely different. Also you go tell the NHTSA to crack down on the...

funny, you spend a lot of time and effort telling me what I should and shouldn't do for someone who doesn't care. Oh, I wouldn't wine, I'll sue them for breach of contract, as well as for breaking laws regarding warranties and false advertising. Of course they know that, so they wouldn't likely...

Well the NHTSA and FMVSS disagree with you, but then of course facts haven't been something you've cared about so far, so why start now. People modify their cars in their garage all the time, at this very moment there are likely many thousands of people doing so all over the world. None of them...

Apparently I can't post 81 pages of legalese in this thread, but go actually read the DMCA exemption that specifically allows hacking your car. https://copyright.gov/1201/2015/fedreg-publicinspectionFR.pdf The DMCA categorically doesn't apply. It's not that I'm not reading. I am. This is 100%...

It's a good thing the law doesn't revolve around your personal opinion. But if you think it's illegal. Please post the actual law that it violates (note, already covered and proven irrelevant are: DMCA, Copyright law, Laws against theft, laws against hacking, laws against murder, laws requiring...

And the NHTSA didn't do anything other than ask if he was planning to. If you don't think that it's the same way Tesla would, than you have no clue what you're talking about, it's EXACTLY Tesla's way. The code is already on the car. And yet again with the "illegal" word... show me the law.

George Hotz was selling a modification. the NHTSA does have jurisdiction over that. Nobody has suggested anyone selling anything here, let along a modification. People are talking about changing a switch, the same switch Tesla does for the same thing. This would be no different than Chevy...

The NHTSA doesn't regulate how people work on their own vehicles in any way shape or form. You are free to replace your own brakes at home with the wrong model and the NHTSA won't do a thing about it. Even if your ridiculous statement held water, the inquiry would go like this: NHTSA: how are...

Pirating software involves making a copy of the software, and violates copyright law. No copies of any software are required here, so there is no relation in any way shape of form to copyright infringement. To conflate the two indicates a complete lack of understanding of what is being discussed...

Exactly, the law is to protect consumers. Hence why there's no law saying you can't upgrade your battery pack, because there's no party that can be harmed by it.

it's been looked at extensively in this very thread. However if you are so certain that it breaks a law despite all the evidence so far. POST THE LAW YOU THINK IT VIOLATES!!!!!!! This is how laws work, nothing is just "illegal" without a law. If you think something is illegal, it must violate a...

They could have called it the Balzac supercharger.... (it actually would have been more precise, because Rocky View surrounds 3 sides of Calgary and is actually massive)

And that's my point. Every definition that makes the Air vaporware would also classify the 3 there. So it's simpler to admit that the Air isn't vaporware. I'm not sure where google pulled that "definition" from, but if you look at the results just below it you'll find that all of the...

Some people call it a hatchback, but I don't really feel that fits. My wife drives a hatchback (VW Rabbit) and it's a very different type of body style from this. I also call it "the best of both worlds" because it has the much nicer styling of a sedan, combined with the extra practicality of a...

If I roll back the odometer, no law is broken until I sell the vehicle. Then the law is in place to protect the buyer of the vehicle. If I unlock the extra potential of the car, no law is broken ever. There is no need to protect the buyer of the vehicle as giving them 75kWh instead of 60 does...

Ok, I reviewed the battery claim again, and I was out by a hair. It's actually an 80.5 kWh battery, with 77kWh usable, I'll excuse the difference between 77 and 80.5, but not the difference between 80.5 and 85. Details can be found in the thread Tesla's 85 kWh rating needs an asterisk (up to 81...

Finally someone who sees my point! I really hope Lucid pull this off, but I understand that it is by no means guaranteed. That said, their current steady progress towards attainable goals makes me think they have a reasonable chance, and keep this solidly out of the vaporware category for now...

They don't have a way to fully measure it, but they certainly found enough to prove that it's nowhere near the situation that phone manufacturers are in, there's definitely missing kWh from the 85 packs, you might be able to argue whether it's 76 or 78 kWh, but there's absolute proof that it...

I've posted pictures in other threads of my car's displays showing a configuration Tesla hadn't yet released, so I'll consider that it's well known I have. If you doubt it... *shrug* not my problem.

There's actually no law against it in any country in the world that we are aware of... so it's not just "technically legal in china" it's legal EVERYWHERE. As for "I don't needs laws"... that explains a LOT about your mindset. You don't care what the law says, you know that you, and you alone...

Except that this isn't even about "useable" space, this is pure cell capacity. It's well known that the 85s contain 77kWh packs, that are limited to even less to avoid damage from over or under charging (this isn't true of other pack sizes that Tesla offers where the pack size is close to...

My sales paperwork says "85kWh" The manual states that a P85+ contains a battery with an 85kWh capacity. Except that people have gone far beyond saying "it's illegal" (despite it clearly not being so) and are instead specifically calling it theft, and implying that the person is a thief for...

The only way your method would solve that would be if you regularly run out of electricity (which I don't exactly recommend)

Or disregarding how long trips work. The long trip itself will correct the BMS if the charge is needed, if it's not, then you shouldn't care.

My interest extends simply to correcting falsehoods that have been spread. For that reason, I will stop discussing the morality of this with anyone on here (don't take this as agreement if you say it's immoral) But I will not stand by people claiming it's illegal unless they can show a specific...

read the other 168 comments in this thread then. It's the "morally superior" people who are accusing everyone else of crimes they didn't commit. I should also note that hypotheticals can still be considered libel if it's shown that they are using hypotheticals simply to avoid the actual claim.

And I feel quite sorry for anyone who thinks, as you do, that they do not own any item ever. Corporations own the very clothes on their backs and can set any terms they like, regardless of legallity. What a horrible horrible world you live in.

This discussion went as far as it could go more than 5 pages ago. As for harming others. If Tesla shoots you, feel free to blame me, I'm used to it.

FF could be considered vaporware because of the surrounding circumstances, their factory is late, and has already been downsized, their product failed to perform properly on stage, etc. Lucid, with no such gaffes, is simply an un-released product. If you think all unreleased products are...

Hasn't affected any of my long trips. if it affects yours, maybe you should have it looked at. If you don't want to plug in every day, that's your choice. I'm just saying that it's one that is not based in what's best for the battery.

If I break in to a Tesla store and take an item, you can call it stealing. Until then you better come up with a different crime to accuse me of. Because per the legal definition, no theft occurs. You'd think all these people who are so concerned with my breaking the law wouldn't be so quick to...

Most people find it far more convenient to plug in every night so they never forget, AND it's better for the battery to boot, win-win. No, you completely misunderstand. charging from 50-60% daily is ALWAYS better for the car than charging from 20-90% weekly (or 40-70 every 3 days.) It doesn't...

I think you misunderstand. I have never said that Lucid will succeed, or that Tesla will fail. I have however stated that the term vaporware does not apply to the Lucid Air at this time. Now that will change if they start missing the deadlines they've imposed, or start claiming things that are...

Your "study" doesn't even talk about the topic I mentioned... all it says is to keep it between 20-90% (and nothing about the "the lower the better" that you just asserted. However if you really do believe that lower is better, you'd want to charge a small amount frequently. If you charge every...

Not even the least bit remotely comparable, and trying to conflate murder with unlocking software features says a lot about your mind set. Unless of course you can tell me who's death I will cause by using Tesla's own interface to change the software setting on the car. and if you can, you'd...

Proof? Tesla recommends leaving it at 90%, but has allowed people to chose lower (though not below 50 as they know that's likely to decrease longevity) Additionally, my claim was not in regards to choosing a specific level, but in relation to wide swings vs narrow swings. If all you ever need...

In that case, Tesla Vapor 3.

Unrelated to this thread, but why not plug it in every day if you park in a garage anyway? It's better for the battery to frequently charge small amounts than to infrequently charge large amounts. There are also the added benefits of reduced likelihood that you'll forget to plug it in on "charge...

The DC-DC converter (not an inverter) stays on if the car is "on". If the car is off, the DC-DC converter cycles as needed. By plugging in to the 12v outlet though, you guarantee that you'll only use the device while the DC-DC converter is running because the outlet turns itself off with the...

Not at all relevant, as nobody is proposing copying any copyrighted material. Let's make it instead, "disabling the copy protection on a DVD so that you can play it on your Linux computer that the manufacturer hadn't bothered to make a legal player for" No copying, just watching the DVD you...