lafrisbee
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Look at the 5d chart. Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Stock Price, News, Quote & History - Yahoo Finance
This daily manipulation pattern has been going exactly as planned for 5 days, regardless of what the "news" is.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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This daily manipulation pattern has been going exactly as planned for 5 days, regardless of what the "news" is.
If you watched what she said & came away with this interpretation, then what you mention could apply. I heard it differently.
Maybe my phrasing fell short of conveying her delivery. At the time she was speaking about ARK’s overall thesis for Square (as she had just done for Tesla, which is where the interview started), characterizing ARK’s view of Square delivering a 30% annual rate of return over the next 5 years. In my view, she wasn’t speaking to ARK’s portfolio. Then she said that she sees Tesla’s annual rate of return over the next 5 years as 45%.
lafrisbee
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There is no way for her to quantify what she may or not make by trading, in the future. She has to mean HODL.
I don’t believe that's how they generally operate. They move stocks in and out of the funds based on what their analysts think the long-term growth prospects are compared with competitors. They don’t day-trade them. That’s how they got stocks like TSLA and SQ to bubble to the top, Yes if a particular stock has exceeded 10% of a particular fund, they would look at opportune times to sell a bit, but I doubt that’s the primary motivation.
It's absolutely based on Hodl or else anyone can get a 45% return on anything if it's manipulated often. Hell I can get a 450% return on Nikola if I time everything correctly.
Yeah she was definitely talking about return rate as a Tesla shareholder. Doesn't really seem to be any grey area to me
Electrek - 2.5 hours ago: Tesla is looking to move to steer-by-wire with new motor and geartrain team in Austin - Electrek
The "Temporary Switchyard" might be a key milestone at Austin, they may elect to light up the site and run extended hours.
Something like 2 X 8 hour shifts is worth exploring...overall something like 5am to 9pm.
If they do that, and combine it with prefab construction as per Berlin, it may be a very rapid build...
The other reasons I explored earlier, removing the existing power lines and demolishing the MM, facilities, but maintaining power to the construction offices.
Overall onsite electricity is s big advantage... I did wonder about the reasons for the "Temporary Switchyard", but it is starting to make perfect sense.
It is great to see well thought out, well executed, construction projects...
Something like 2 X 8 hour shifts is worth exploring...overall something like 5am to 9pm.
If they do that, and combine it with prefab construction as per Berlin, it may be a very rapid build...
The other reasons I explored earlier, removing the existing power lines and demolishing the MM, facilities, but maintaining power to the construction offices.
Overall onsite electricity is s big advantage... I did wonder about the reasons for the "Temporary Switchyard", but it is starting to make perfect sense.
It is great to see well thought out, well executed, construction projects...
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StealthP3D
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I agree. That's just softcore FUD masquerading as bullish analysis.
Krugerrand
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Actually, yes they did say it was going to be a VERY slow build. Go back and reread all the posts. And the very fact building is going on without all the permits so as not to hold up the build of the factory; thanks for making my point.
Cool interview, but in my opinion his understanding of the future Mobility as a Service market is very poor. He doesn't see an easy path for Tesla to launch a ride-hailing service, whereas he thinks Uber is undervalued and very well positioned with its platform.
I wonder if he's ever fundamentally thought about what's needed to operate an autonomous mobility as a service platform:
- Platform.
- Cheap EVs with low TCO.
- FSD system.
- Servicing infrastructure.
- Charging infrastructure.
- Insurance.
- In-car entertainment.
lafrisbee
Active Member
Nope. Not really. If it were it would be a slow walk up during hours instead of spiking then being walked down through out the day. And as I have theorized before, The MM's have a very good understanding of the direction of the stock (and that is why this kind of manipulation doesn't really piss me off more), and the MM's let the stock rise and fall, they just "help" themselves to where it has to be. And they also do manipulate it to the point of putting off algos and the casual buyer, as well as sometimes boosting it to get more interested in it before they do their end game. Often I've seen it rise for no reason at all to a considerable level so that those inclined to buy calls will go ahead and try their hand. Only to see the stock tumble back down and stay there the rest of the week.
I can figure out what Tesla is doing and where it is going. I can't have any idea what the MM's are thinking each week because the MM's sole objective is to fool me into making a wrong move...whether it is to buy or sell, or buy calls or puts, or to set a sell order. The MM's aren't playing the stock. They are playing the people....AND the stock.
StealthP3D
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While I didn't listen in, it would be very unusual for Someone like Cathie Wood to estimate returns than included their trading performance. Very unusual. She was almost certainly analyzing the expected performance of the stock - not her trading desk.
And why do you think "ordinary retail investors" couldn't see a 45% average annual return over 5 years by buying and holding a stock like TSLA?
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A Cathie Wood piece. Enjoy and let’s go $TSLA
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