No, but he clearly gave two ****s about what they thought.He said he was saddened but what exactly happened. Did he turn tail and run?
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No, but he clearly gave two ****s about what they thought.He said he was saddened but what exactly happened. Did he turn tail and run?
EM is no Namby Pamby.He said he was saddened but what exactly happened. Did he turn tail and run?
No, but he clearly gave two ****s about what they thought.
Oh stop the BS revisionist crap.No, but he clearly gave two ****s about what they thought.
"I was very sad to see that," Musk tells "60 Minutes" correspondent Scott Pelley. "Those guys are heroes of mine, so it's really tough … I wish they would come and visit … see the hard work that we're doing here and I think that it would change their mind."
*I will refrain from saying the punchline - but under great duress because it’s an epically good punchline*- let’s call that ‘the goose that lays the golden egg’.
Elon isn't the whole goose, but he seems to be a vital part of the goose -
I don't see what's revisionist about acknowledging that Elon cared about the opinions of men he considers heroes.Oh stop the BS revisionist crap.
98% of the public is misinformed and 2% probably are TMCers that post in this thread.Had an interesting discussion tonight with 2 medical reps who had complete opposite views on Tesla.
One said his friend has 800k invested in TSLA and he said any shares bought now will be worth 10x in 10 years. The rep said these cars had the best technology ever and that no other companies could reproduce the technology and that Musk was a brillant engineer.
The other two from the same company said Musk didn’t invent anything and just took technologies that already existed. He said he doesn’t believe Elon sold his homes and live as a renter. He said the build quality of the cars was cheap and his Nissan Rogue was already capable of following the lanes on the highway and adapt to other cars speed. He said the stock price was not going up anywhere soon because there is no reason to buy the stocks of a crazy man tweeting crazy things.
2 guys from the same company living in 2 completely different realities.
No. Europe wants a level playing field with respect to carbon taxes between local production and imports. Local production needs to pay CO2 taxes in proportion to their emissions, while this is not or much less so for imports. The new taxes will pull up the paid emissions taxes on imports to the same level as local production. This should remove the unfair advantage of imports from countries that have no or little emission taxes.Sounds like Europe's response to the IRA?
Are you looking at a 1 year chart? Give a time frame. Don't bother looking at a 1 year chart because Twitter didn't happen until later in the year. Look at a 3 month chart. The 3 month comparison of NVDA and TSLA Is digusting, it's like a 100% different in stock price. Here is just a 1 month. The divergence is so obvious you can't argue against it at all.
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Pretty much nobody I know uses Twitter here in Europe, they're all on FaceBookCompletely disagree…and I have many friends in those locations you just listed. Twitter isn’t even that popular in a number of those countries…..UK? Are you kidding me? A extreme leftist in the UK would be considered a moderate independent in the US. Europe doesn’t care about US politics and the left or the right. They especially don’t care that much about Twitter
I just sold my free-SuperCharging, Free Premium, Full FSD, full-spec 2016 XP100DL+, will let you know how the MXPlaid experience comparesAs usual, our legacy cars are left behind.
Still not worth giving up my free supercharging.
Guys who drank the patron are gonna have a bad hangover
So let me preface this once again that I wish Elon would lay-off the politics and the petty name-calling, although as others have pointed-out, it's nothing new, just feels to have ramped-up since he bought Twitter - it's almost like it's his personal platform now, which is a little scary, IMO and might have ramifications going forwardsIf I could "thumbs up" this post 10X I would. Because that is the crux of the problem now. We've all been able to have confidence long term, during the long, low stock price periods because we knew the fundamentals were in line for an enormous valuation as Tesla executed so well, and had confidence in Elon as a leader, engineer, employer, and someone with the best interests of the world and mankind in mind.
Now, with the bizzaro-Elon, that is all in doubt--because of his irrationality and enterprise-destructive behavior. I can't believe he's tweeting Q-Anon and MAGA. Literally can't believe it. Even if Tesla execution continues great, and of course it will flower in other markets where they don't understand the politics so well, there is a large and growing number of potential customers in the US and other markets (Europe) that will simply not want to own a Tesla. It's already happening in the US. If you need proof, just look at this forum. Full of formerly 100% investors and customers admiring of Elon, now gnashing teeth and rending garments. I did well with the stock. I have a MY. It's a great car. is that enough?
We also have not discussed the tragic opportunity cost of all this--the 44 billion, the taking his eye off the Tesla/SpaceX adjacent spaces. What might he have done in e-aviation? short-and medium city-to-city aircraft? All of the other space and transportation-adjacent enterprises sitting on the ground waiting to be picked up, areas that would have been a natural for Tesla. Reports are that he's completely lost interest in the Boring Co., that cities he'd been talking to are waiting in vain for bids, or have been ghosted. Getting regulatory approvals for Nuralink, FSD, and a host of other things just became exponentially more difficult.
So very sad. No, my winged friend, indeed it is not easy to figure out how to move forward.
Sell and take a loss? Why? Do you sleeping in a bed, with a roof over your head? You have food? Is your cell phone charged?
Better IMO to chalk this episode up to life experience. In January, you had FOMO and were buying as fast as you could. Now that the SP has been cut by 60%, you question yourself and your resolve.
This is the emotional response the Hedgies try to evoke from retail investors. That's how they steal your $$$. Never underestimate the dark side.
My advice is, if you're young, healthy, employed and patient, you can still profit from this situation. But you're not the only person here today saying that they won't buy more at this bottom. DCA is the way forward, with money you can afford to be without for a number of years. And dear God, avoid MARGERINE!
Paging @StealthP3D for the color.
Cheers!