If I read things right, we’re significantly above max-pain tonight. Watch for some bad new from Reuters, WSJ, etc. tomorrow morning.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Drumheller
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Tesla has always started with selling the most expensive trim first on a new product release in order to help fund the factory growth. Also, the top trim cybertruck announced in 2019 was listed as $69,990 without FSD. So, yes, I think it's very reasonable to expect the first cybertrucks to sell for $75K or $80K when accounting for inflation. May be more.
The lowered priced trims will roll out gradually.
The lowered priced trims will roll out gradually.
Elon Musk 'can afford to include AM radio in his Teslas': Democrats and Republicans agree AM should go in EVs
A new bill would require car companies to have AM radio in their new vehicles, as some lawmakers aim to end the growing trend of EVs getting made without it.
www.marketwatch.com
Elon Musk ‘can afford to include AM radio in his Teslas’: Democrats and Republicans agree AM should go in EVs
Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, Democratic Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts and other U.S. lawmakers have rolled out a bill this week that would require car companies to have AM radio in their new vehicles, as the lawmakers aim to end the growing trend of electric vehicles getting made without that feature.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Lol, wudyamean? The IRA already set the price for pickup trucks: $79,990
"In any color you want, as long as it's stainless steel..."
Cheers!
Damn right, and a 8 track player!Elon Musk 'can afford to include AM radio in his Teslas': Democrats and Republicans agree AM should go in EVs
A new bill would require car companies to have AM radio in their new vehicles, as some lawmakers aim to end the growing trend of EVs getting made without it.
Elon Musk ‘can afford to include AM radio in his Teslas’: Democrats and Republicans agree AM should go in EVs
Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, Democratic Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts and other U.S. lawmakers have rolled out a bill this week that would require car companies to have AM radio in their new vehicles, as the lawmakers aim to end the growing trend of electric vehicles getting made without that feature.
I must admit that i am kinda frustrated to see big tech names: NVDA, MSFT, META all reaching new 52 week highs, while $TSLA struggles to claw back above $180.
Oh well, good things come to those that wait
Oh well, good things come to those that wait
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Check again after 7:00 a.m. ET tomorrow. That's when we find out what today's Max Pain was...
Could you just imagine if this was Tesla? 
MartinAustin
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My expectations for Cybertruck launch will be that there'll be a bunch of trucks delivered starting September 30th, and then nothing more for a while. This is what happened with Model X in 2015 IIRC. (totally different reasons) The deliveries will all be the top trim, whatever that is called. They will want the "wow factor" - even if it costs them some deliveries - since the larger battery requires more 4680s. Normally they release in California first, since that's where their engineers are in case of early faults. (and Cybertruck prototypes are driving around in California) But perhaps reservationholders in the Austin area will see the first deliveries, this time.
Shipping the top trim first is totally normal Tesla behaviour, (though following the launch Electrek wrote "the two less expensive versions, which are going to start at $39,900 and $49,900, are coming in 'late 2021,' while the more expensive version with more motors and bigger battery pack is going to be available in 'late 2022'")
The prices were revealed in 2019... pre-pandemic, pre-economic pandemonium. It should be noted that:
Thoretically a quad-motor truck, whose price had never been revealed, could easily be $90,000.
Shipping the top trim first is totally normal Tesla behaviour, (though following the launch Electrek wrote "the two less expensive versions, which are going to start at $39,900 and $49,900, are coming in 'late 2021,' while the more expensive version with more motors and bigger battery pack is going to be available in 'late 2022'")
The prices were revealed in 2019... pre-pandemic, pre-economic pandemonium. It should be noted that:
Thoretically a quad-motor truck, whose price had never been revealed, could easily be $90,000.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Well, they are "Motor" Trend, not Engine Trend, so maybe they've been pro-EV all along...
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Some shorts getting margin called, or what?
No idea, but I'm cool with it.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
This is not an original idea to Shell. The City of London, England has had this type of on-the-street charge-while-parking for EVs for 2+ yrs now:
1,300 street lights converted to EV chargers in London | Fleet Europe (March 24, 2020)
Cheers!
Yes, I remember that one, but couldn't make the title of my post on it into a pun and gave up till now.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
...and, When will Tesla provide the Nuns with a Tablet and a Starlink so they can watch the Cobalt Mine Cam?
Maybe some rumors of a debt ceiling deal?
Or..they're just setting everyone up for disappointment friday
Plausible
Stock futures rise slightly on Thursday evening: Live updates
All the major averages are on pace to cap off the week with gains.
Such an increase for the Cybertruck wouldn't align with what has happened to the rest of the lineup since 2019 although the CT wouldn't be benefitting from the same efficiency of scale improvements since 2019.
But even before adjusting for broader inflation, almost the entire S/3/X/Y lineup today costs fewer dollars than it did at the start of 2019. Adjusting for broader inflation, the entire lineup is probably significantly cheaper in real terms than it was in 2019 dollars.
I would have expected the CT to cost far more than the original announced prices before the big price cuts this year, but now it seems less certain. Blows my mind that we still have no idea what these will cost.
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