ZachF
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They're going to need a car with more than 195 miles of range if they want to do that...
(Seriously, the real life range numbers on the Etron are soooo disappointing.)
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They're going to need a car with more than 195 miles of range if they want to do that...
(Seriously, the real life range numbers on the Etron are soooo disappointing.)
ZachF
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Hardly anybody is going to choose a $37k bolt over a $39k SR+.
anthonyj
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The uninformed and misinformed will. Not many of those people left tho
Yes, but someone in the Bolt subreddit said they were getting a well equipped Bolt for $28,000. Of course no headiness fur GM's demand cliff massive price cuts.
Dan Detweiler
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Funny to see all these large companies joining their forces in order to build an EV or charging infrastructure etc. whereas Tesla is doing it all on its own.
The plates things getting some people excited here would be completely irrelevant as Being has too many cars already, anything that aiming at getting around that regulation seems shady and fishy. Much more relevant number is how many people who already have a car would switch to Tesla so they can use their car every day, and save tens of thousands on gas money per year.
What you said is typical stereotype only applies to a small portion of stupid people somehow thinking they're the main stream, while losing relevance every day. Nowadays Beijing has more people from other places than traditional locals. Many singles with relatively high income are highly educated working in IT firms who do not relies on their parents financial help and need no consent from their parents. Even from the parents point of view, a car is nothing comparing to a job at top IT firms in China.
BTW I'm Chinese grew up in northern China went to the one of the top Universities in Beijing. My classmates back home express no interest in interfering their kids lives. Using a stupid car as a criterion for choosing future in laws is an insult to their intelligent and financial stands.
Ya know. If that’s what it takes, more power to them. But if THAT doesn’t work, I don’t know what their path forward is.
"Small portion of stupid people" said by a guy who went to a top University in Beijing. You are literally imposing your situation, which accounts to be the smallest segment of kids in China, as the general consensus. That's like kids who graduated from MIT and works at Google see the world.
The majority of kids in Beijing are not wealthy or can work for Alibaba and rely on their parents..not the other way around.
Pretty sure the ICE manufacturers are not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. The last paragraph says this:
"Tesla has only survived as long as it has because of the generous government exemptions it receives at the state and federal levels," said Appleton. "The clean air credits have allowed Tesla to stay in business as long as it has because middle class car buyers have floated it."
When it should say this:
“GM has only survived as long as it has because of the generous government carbon exemptions it receives at the state and federal levels. The clean air credits allow GM to sell high emission cars and stay in business as long as it has because middle class car buyers have floated it by buying Teslas."
That article is about parts, car parts
"shared development, production planning and joint purchasing"
I read that as "batteries, what about the darn batteries?"
Remus, for people who currently arent allowed to buy a car,
getting a plate from TSLA would be a welcome opportunity, right?
What’s even better is that Teslas will be able to use their networks.....hopefully.
We are talking about the addressable market of Tesla Model 3 LR here, who cares about the people who can't feed themselves?
Thanks very much, JRP. I wondered if that article was just a hit piece or had substance. (I didn't know the author Jamie Powell.)
In addition to the sneering tone and one legitimate criticism of Ark's typo (which Ark acknowledged and fixed), Powell's criticism is:
1) Questioning Ark's motives for their price targets. (Does he apply the same standard to Adam Jonas?)
2) Dismissing Ark's bull case model without evidence.
3) Quoting Aswath Damodaran's dismissal of Ark's bull case, which was done without evidence.
For #2, Powell says: "if you input that Tesla only sells one car in 2023 into the “bull” section of the model, Tesla's shares still appreciate to $391, thanks to the recurring profits from an autonomous taxi fleet of 7.2m cars." Well duh. Autonomous taxis could be quite profitable. Powell's analysis consists of one word: "Sure."
For #3, Powell quotes Professor Damodaran in bold-face: "As for the bull case, I will leave it untouched, since it strikes me as more fairy tale than valuation."
A fair article would point out that neither Powell nor Damodaran know anything about autonomous car technology, while Ark does. Ark has four analysts following Tesla, including one who worked on Nvidia. He/she knows more about the hardware and software demonstrated at Tesla's Autonomy Day than does the Stern School of Business professor.
So I won't bother subscribing to Financial Times to read Jamie Powell.
davecolene0606
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Are they even near the production rate?
Is LG even supplying enough batteries?
Tune in for the next exciting episode....
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Absolutely. But issuing plates is the government authority. How does Tesla gets to do that?
davecolene0606
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