Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[NicoV]

Interesting find.

Is it known whether the WW2 war-effort had any use for this area?

Because in that case there is a much increased likelihood of finding live ordnance there, e.g. 250kg aerial bombs. Even today such bombs are regularly found during construction work, they are typically deemed to unstable to move, so they are destroyed in place, a process that typically puts the construction (of the factory foundation) on hold for some days.

One would hope that Tesla has negotiated this point with the authorities, that the reaction to the discovery of any such bombs will be prompt and not cause a prolonged standstill at the site.

I don’t know about Germany, but in Belgium we routinely (daily) find bombs from WW1, and these are immediatly taken care of by a specialized division of the Belgian army. I doubt Germany will deal with this less efficiently. WWII bombs are a non-issue for GF4.

What is more risky is if the diggings would find things of archeological interest, as these could stop the works for months or years (at least that’q the case in Belgium)

 

[sundaymorning]

But Germany is not Mordor and Gigafactory Berlin is a done deal.

I think Elon's poll is about another factory, in the ... less enlightened parts of the U.S.

Michigan Gigafactory for the Tesla Pickup Truck secured?

Will Tesla upgrade the Big Three to the Big Four?

I would scratch Michigan, that state doesn’t deserve Tesla. From my perspective, going into an entrenched state like Michigan is a no win situation, best to bring business to a friendlier more open minded state.

 

[KarenRei]

What is more risky is if the diggings would find things of archeological interest, as these could stop the works for months or years (at least that’q the case in Belgium)

I suspect that Tesla might do what Iceland did when remnants of an old longhouse were found during a construction project in Reykjavík: modify the designs to include a "basement", where the excavation could continue while construction continued around it (and which they eventually turned into an in-situ museum).

 

[Mkorpal]

Wise words by yourself and @Zhelko Dimic . So I will bring up my favorite Zombie project:
Project Tim Information - City of Durand
Project Tim in Durand MI.

ah yes, TIM. What ever happened to that?

 

[Sunlight]

My guesses re the Cybertruck:-

Very cab- forward allowing low front screen so great view of the terrain. Also very long load deck - better than all competitors.
Available in single/ double AND triple cab (8- seater) - still with a useable load deck.

Long wheelbase for big battery. Really short overhangs.

Massive under deck secure storage a la Rivian (but much bigger)

Some clever rear tailgate with lift.

Ah that sounds a bit APC-ish.....

 

[Nocturnal]

I would scratch Michigan, that state doesn’t deserve Tesla. From my perspective, going into an entrenched state like Michigan is a no win situation, best to bring business to a friendlier more open minded state.

I feel bad for Detroit and perhaps the workforce in MI would be a benefit but I'm thinking the same thing. Why pick up UAW thinking etc.? I say that as a person who is lukewarm to unions in general, but who has a personal interest in Tesla not being unionized.

My guesses re the Cybertruck:-

Very cab- forward allowing low front screen so great view of the terrain. Also very long load deck - better than all competitors.
Available in single/ double AND triple cab (8- seater) - still with a useable load deck.

Long wheelbase for big battery. Really short overhangs.

Massive under deck secure storage a la Rivian (but much bigger)

Some clever rear tailgate with lift.

Ah that sounds a bit APC-ish.....

OT Why not make the 2nd and/or 3rd row ruggedized with removable doors/seats and a removable panel from the bed to cab. That way you can go from a short bed with 2/3 rows to a 1 row truck with a super long bed?

 

[avoigt]

I'm sure a German employee with a lot of experience negotiating with unions will be leading the negotiating. AFAIK, Grohman hasn't had any labor issues, right ?

Grohman had a lot of labor right issues with Tesla after they acquired them regardless if its accurate of false it went up and down the press for weeks.

US companies are still somehow seen as evil if it comes to worker rights a bid like the US does see German often as liberal and socialism.

Fundamental law base is completely different too which often creates a clash of culture and understanding.

Having Germany running the GF4 will not help if Tesla Management does not adjust but I am confident they will.

 

[woodisgood]

I will not sell TSLA to buy cybertruck.
I will not sell TSLA to buy cybertruck.
I will not sell TSLA to buy cybertruck.
I will not sell TSLA to buy cybertruck....

 

[MissAutobahn]

I think the Germans are much more willing to let the future eat the present.

To me they seem to be rather paralyzed by the situation

 

[SteveG3]

Credit Suisse still touting the “look out for that competitor!” line, with latest being the Mach-E.

Credit Suisse says Tesla is running out of time as the major electric car maker — CNBC

ShamWow!

as seen on CNBC TV!

 

[Sancho]

Post-Patriarchy, gender is irrelevant. Please do try to keep up.

I love this forum.

 

[kengchang]

http://cfr.logisuite.net/quicktracking.aspx

This container tracking is juicy as hell.

Shows a lot of outbound shipment of Tesla to all over the world

 

[Dan Detweiler]

Any hints or leaks what to expect from next weeks cyberpunk truck reveal event?

A truck? Just a guess. lol

Dan

 

[EVNow]

What just happened ? Big up&down movement of SP @ 120k volume.

 

[MartinAustin]

Credit Suisse still touting the “look out for that competitor!” line, with latest being the Mach-E.

Credit Suisse says Tesla is running out of time as the major electric car maker — CNBC

Doesn't matter what the specs are. Any journalist that is not asking Ford "how many do you plan to build?" is not a real journalist.

Quite the Thursday TSLA fight going on. Shorts will try to get it down below $350 by the end of the day. Seems like TSLA is spending more and more time above $350 though.

 

[Tslynk67]

Ahhhh, that's the reason Consumer Reports puts Tesla back on recommended list as reliability improves

Another $TSLAQ argument goes.

 

[Dan Detweiler]

Concerning a future victory with Elon's brilliant move in the backyard of the German government this cartoon in a German Newspaper says more than 1000 words
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Eww...

All I can see when I look at that is this... Skip to 0.45. Maybe not the best visual reference under the circumstances.

Dan

 

[SteveG3]

Tesla sedans regain recommended status in Consumer Reports survey

based on 3 and S reliability both being raised to average (the cars score quite well in their testing, but, reliability was a veto to recommending. I know, I know, the previous low reliability rating from CR looked quite contrary to their actual data).

 

[StarFoxisDown!]

What just happened ? Big up&down movement of SP @ 120k volume.

Big effort to keep below 350 in play. The trading all week so far has been a pretty coordinated effort to keep the stock under the 350 line. Given the buying volume that came out of nowhere, the size of the sell orders had to increase dramatically to limit the gains there.

Really feels like last year during Q4 when there was a considerable effort to cap the rise in the stock price in hopes of a downturn in macro's. Not sure they'll get so lucky this year.

 

[Nocturnal]

Ford is really going with "Mach-E" for their "mustang inspired" (whatever that means) EV huh?
This just shows the marketing advantage Tesla has. The legacy autos have to stick goofy names to existing car brands to make sure people know they are electric. Tell your neighbor you have an I-Pace and he will say, "oh, Jaguar? Cool I guess." He will have zero idea it's an electric version of the E-pace.