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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Exactly. ICE cars are the transportation equivalent of incandescent bulbs. An aging and inefficient technology that needs to be pushed aside for more modern and energy efficient alternatives. Many governments around the world are offering incentives to speed up this transition.
bhtooefr
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Yes, but specific to stock trading. A care bear is a concern troll who is suspected of holding a bearish position on the stock. (That is, if their concern trolling is successful, they profit.)
Ironically, the Chrysler side of Fiat Chrysler has more than Fiat does (the electric conversion on the Fiat 500e was, as I understand, done entirely by the former ENVI team at Chrysler), although there is apparently going to be a next-gen 500e done by Fiat in Italy.
However, my suspicion is actually that Chrysler's ICE products will keep FCA afloat for a very long time. The Fiat side may be dead, but there's going to be rednecks and sheiks that want a Hellcat or a Ram for a very long time, and I'm not optimistic about ICE bans being universal in the US, or extant in parts of the Middle East. (All of this means, I don't have the stones to buy FCAU puts.)
The counter-argument will be that Norway is a distorted market, of course.
FWIW, on your original chart, I'd group the Prius PHV and Prime together - the Prime is merely the second generation of PHV, and in non-US markets, they didn't even change the name.
One guy (Brad Buss, the former CFO of SolarCity) seems to be offloading all his shares. Jerome usually sells 1000 shares from time to time and has been doing it for ages (probably to cover for some taxes). Not much to see, really.
I can't wait to the racing videos when Roadster 2 comes out
Tesla Model 3 receives certification to be sold in Australia, strongly suggests models and towing capacity - techAU
Now the vehicle has the necessary approval, it would be reasonable to expect we see the order page go live this week in Australia
Now the vehicle has the necessary approval, it would be reasonable to expect we see the order page go live this week in Australia
Mokuzai
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Good point, InsideEvs had them separate but noticing there's no overlap in the data. The visualization has been updated. But of course doesn't affect the existing videos that were made from it.
US Plug In EV Sales 2012 - Present
Etna
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Just pick the best two performing stock on NASDAQ at last close and pretty good performers for the past few months, INTU and WDAY, and it is all red. Not even a single buy.
INTU Insider Trading - INTUIT INC - Form 4 SEC Filings
WDAY Insider Trading - Workday Inc. - Form 4 SEC Filings
So that is typically a sign that your post was not a question.
Nice try though, maybe more subtle next time.
Whatup with you joining TMC almost at same time Tesla was able to bypass Canadian rules, and being able to get the EV incentives?
Co-incidence?
New Care Bear in da house!
This will once again used by short to smear Tesla for living on subsidy. They don't realize that this is the people's will to demand better environment, it can not be stopped.
People will do the right thing after they exhausted all other options, I guess people everywhere are similar. Chinese cities can ban half of ICEs on the road overnight if air quality go south, and the policy is meet with very little complain from the people as no one is willing to breathe the toxic smog.
I expected to see European government follow suit as many cities there are also has smog problem. They will demand more and more strict emission standard that would squeeze the traditional car makers dry
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Also any serious racing game to include R2 in a DLC, I suspect it will kill the fun of the whole game, since there are no competition...
dhrivnak
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Yet if you look at the drone footage I do not see space for 10 more such factories.
JohnDinger
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Any updates to Tesla insurance? Wasn't this announced to be live by the end of May?
No update other than some code leaking on their website referring to the product.
Besides insurance, there could be some news related to China giga before end of this month as well.
Gas stations are dangerous. Time to short the oil companies. VIDEO: Lamborghini and SUV go up in flames at NC Walmart gas station
I thought the Lambo driver was having a bad day ... until I saw a link to a different news story on that website: Man hiding drugs in his anus accidentally shoots himself in the testicles
Fact Checking
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The Shanghai Gigafactory:
- will be built in four phases,
- the current main building is "phase 1", with an initial production capacity of 3,000 cars/week,
- each phase is roughly Fremont equivalent capacity, i.e. can scale to about 7,500 cars/week using the existing main factory building,
- four times ~7,500/week = ~30,000/week, ~1.5m/year.
Source: various statements by Elon and the Shanghai municipal planning documents that were referenced in one of the Chinese sources that were quoted here months ago, which mentioned the 30k/week figure.
EV's demand growth rate is difficult to predict for the next 5~10 years. It depends on EV's improvement and cost. Tony Seba predicted that by 2025 all new vehicles sold will be electric. That seems too optimistic to me, at least the world EV supply will not be able to produce that many. Based on how the Model 3 progressed, including total cost of ownership, I think by 2025, world EV demand could reach 40% (which include all EV types from all producers). If we get to 40% by 2025, we are likely to achieve 80% a few years after 2025. All these are under assumption that EVs will be better and cheaper.
Sometimes people compare two vehicles strictly from price point of view, they say gasoline vehicle XYZ is cheaper than Model 3. My point is analog phones were much cheaper than smart phones, people switched to smart phones rather quickly. EVs are much better than gasoline cars. Look how much people love their Tesla cars. If the cost gets to a comparable point, EV's demand will go up.
For short term, I think 2019 will likely to be bumpy in the remaining quarters. If trade war escalates, it could affect Tesla negatively.
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