Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[Prunesquallor]

Ok, so how exactly does an individual satisfy a peace officer they are traveling for work? Seriously. A statement of, ‘I’m driving to work/from work at Tesla and yes, I’m coming directly from home/going directly home...’ is an honor system kind of thing. No?

Counting down until TESLAQ starts harassing Alameda Sheriff's Office about Tesla employees breaking curfew...

 

[The Accountant]

Time to update that table again...

4th Highest Close .....eva

 

[ggies07]

Damn, I already had a small crush on Tasha, but she keeps making it bigger! FTW:

 

[Artful Dodger]

After-action Report: Mon, Jun 01, 2020: (Full-Day's Trading)

VWAP: $880.00
Volume: 15,102,319
Traded: $13,290,104,516.79 ($13.29 B)

Closing SP / VWAP: 102.14%
(TSLA closed ABOVE today's Avg SP)​

FINRA Short/Total Volume = 39.5% (44th Percentile rank Shorting)
FINRA Volume / Total NASDAQ Vol = 50.7% (51st Percentile rank FINRA Reporting)
FINRA Short Exempt Volume was 2.27% of Short Volume (60th Percentile rank).

Comment: "TSLA back to pre-shutdown levels"

 

[TheTalkingMule]

There's a fat white man with an axe wandering around my neighborhood with a mob of his buddies. Something tells me this is going to be a messy evening in Philadelphia.

 

[space_s3x]

Seeking Alpha 2030:

Monthly Boring Drills sales are down 30% in the Marsdinavia provence.

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Anton’s spontaneous reaction when he got a test ride in Blue Origin’s latest “SpaceX killer” rocket.

 

[bhtooefr]

Tesla short interest as of May 15th; I doubt it would have gone down much since the stock has pretty much remained within 5% of where it closed on May 15th:

Tesla, Inc. Common Stock (TSLA) Short Interest

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And my graph comparing to Ihor's predictions, and to value at risk:

Ihor basically got the number of shares shorted right this time, at least (1.86% over the actual number.)

 

[Artful Dodger]

Last week, Mark Spiegel of Stanphyl Capital told Benzinga there should be no connection between SpaceX an Tesla’s share price.

"Seeing as there's no meaningful financial connection whatsoever between the business of Tesla and the business of SpaceX (other than what Musk might happen to steal from one to the other), there should be no reaction in $TSLA stock regardless of what happens with the launch," Spiegel told Benzinga.

 

[Cattledog]

Between the civil unrest and the reckless behavior like pool parties, I will be very surprised if we don't get a major wave of infections again. Not sure how it will affect the economy and TSLA

Hmmm, we let people swim in our pool in groups of 8 this past weekend, I guess we're an incubator. And reckless!

Didn't Jerome state Tesla was aiming for 'reckless' growth a few years back? Maybe he was right!

 

[Artful Dodger]

I'm still not sure I get it. If MAX PAIN is the best outcome for the option sellers why isn't it called NO PAIN? How can it be MAX if the losses grow for them further away?

Because to Wall St investing is a zero sum game and your pain is their gain.

 

[Thumper]

Hmmm, we let people swim in our pool in groups of 8 this past weekend, I guess we're an incubator. And reckless!

Didn't Jerome state Tesla was aiming for 'reckless' growth a few years back? Maybe he was right!

I was referring to pool parties with hundreds like happened in Lake of the Ozarks. If you think the shoe fits...well maybe.

 

[StealthP3D]

There are exemptions from the curfew for “peace officers, firefighters, emergency operations personnel, other government employees engaged in authorized emergency operations, members of the National Guard, or any other responding military personnel deployed to the county,” as well as “individuals who can establish to the satisfaction of a peace officer that they are in such place for the sole purpose of traveling to their home or workplace or to obtain medical assistance,” the order said.

Are you sure there isn't an exception for those exercising their First Amendment rights?

 

[StealthP3D]

Ok, so how exactly does an individual satisfy a peace officer they are traveling for work? Seriously. A statement of, ‘I’m driving to work/from work at Tesla and yes, I’m coming directly from home/going directly home...’ is an honor system kind of thing. No?

Yes, honor system. If you're white and driving a decent car they take your word. If you're a person of color they will probably demand that you produce some solid evidence or they will drag you out of your car and bark in a commanding voice, "why are you resisting me, do as I say or this is going to get ugly real fast!"

 

[StealthP3D]

Didn't Jerome state Tesla was aiming for 'reckless' growth a few years back? Maybe he was right!

I love the idea of "reckless growth". I think Elon recently said (in response to a question that was probably about how Coronavirus might have changed Tesla's growth trajectory) something like "we discussed it and it might be a little risky but we decided to steam ahead full speed". Or something like that.

 

[Silent Ludicrosy]

I'm still not sure I get it. If MAX PAIN is the best outcome for the option sellers why isn't it called NO PAIN? How can it be MAX if the losses grow for them further away?

Or do they have some fetish where making money causes them pain?

Its max pain for both call and put buyers. If group A only buys $800 calls and Group B only buys $700 puts, a price at expiration of $750 means they all expire worthless.

 

[oldTAVguy]

Its max pain for both call and put buyers. If group A only buys $800 calls and Group B only buys $700 puts, a price at expiration of $750 means they all expire worthless.

If there a equal number in each group, the were bought at the same IV and how the MM with the most to lose or gain could control the events. Plus another n factors.

 

[StealthP3D]

Look out! China competition coming:

Geely’s Polestar plans China showroom expansion to compete with Tesla -sources

Geely didn't want to fund this expansion themselves (probably because they weren't sure it would pay off) so they are using other suckers investors money to make it happen.

 

[AZRI11]

There's a fat white man with an axe wandering around my neighborhood with a mob of his buddies. Something tells me this is going to be a messy evening in Philadelphia.

That's what happens when you boo Santa Claus

 

[hacer]

Max Pain comes from the idea of maximum pain for option Sellers Buyers. So as the share price moves away from maximum pain for option sellers buyers (either direction), the amount of money (shares delivered or received) increases from that baseline.

Stock Option Max Pain

That's the site I use for TSLA. The hope pages has blogs and other links to information about max pain theory and details..

FTFY

 

[MC3OZ]

I love the idea of "reckless growth". I think Elon recently said (in response to a question that was probably about how Coronavirus might have changed Tesla's growth trajectory) something like "we discussed it and it might be a little risky but we decided to steam ahead full speed". Or something like that.

I would be happy with a capital raise after Battery Day, if that meant building factories and battery production faster.

In spite of COVID-19, I still see 2020-2025 as "Peak Opportunity" for Tesla there is a lot of EV market share up for grabs, the early bird gets the worm. The opportunity is big and I think Tesla has matured to the point of being able to execute well enough to take the opportunity.