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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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I am taking this opportunity to sell covered calls and then use the proceeds to pick up additional shares. Bought 5 more this morning, making it 18 shares so far this month.
You know, lemons and lemonade....
You know, lemons and lemonade....
Millions spent on real estate, millions invested in getting a politically sanctioned monopoly.View attachment 779425
Tesla Set the Model for Selling EVs; Ford, VW and Others Want to Follow
Executives at traditional car makers view the pivot to electric vehicles as a chance to modernize the way vehicles are priced and sold—and that has dealers worried.www.wsj.com
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They can sell the real estate, they can't ever get that money back they spent on their local politician.
Aren’t you worried about getting Called Out at these low prices?
The market is pretty much paralyzed right now with the situation in Ukraine. Movement there will be the driver for the near future. As long as there is major risk there, the big money will stay on the sidelines. Any chart, EMA, MA, RSI, etc would all be thrown away if a resolution came there. The moment that happens, the market will jump in a heartbeat.
Going into next week, we also have the fed decision where a week ago bets moved right to a 25 point increase and have slowly shifted back to a 50 point increase. If the 50 comes to fruition, more bleeding will happen. If 25 happens, there should be a small uptick that'll probably be short lived. Either way on that though, we are waiting on something to happen in Ukraine. As long as that is happening, we are in a mostly sideways but tilting down market with wild volatility.
Going into next week, we also have the fed decision where a week ago bets moved right to a 25 point increase and have slowly shifted back to a 50 point increase. If the 50 comes to fruition, more bleeding will happen. If 25 happens, there should be a small uptick that'll probably be short lived. Either way on that though, we are waiting on something to happen in Ukraine. As long as that is happening, we are in a mostly sideways but tilting down market with wild volatility.
This is really the way to go IMO. I've gathered up an extra leap and have enough funds to grab another when I feel the time is right.
Just a FYI, for the S&P to go down to where he's pointing or go down as much as everyone is fearing, it would take Apple/Microsoft/Goggle/FB all crashing. Otherwise, it's actually pretty much impossible. The collection of those 5 stocks make up too much of the revenue and especially earnings of the S&P.
If you take out those 5, the S&P is already deep in bear market territory (20%+ from ATH). Not saying the S&P/Nasdaq can't take the dive lower since it very well could. But those 5 stocks, especially Apple, need to crash for it to happen.
Took out emergency medical $ reserve and bought some more to round out to even round number of chairs HODL
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ZachF
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It takes about 20 million EVs on the road to reduce oil consumption by about 1 million bpd.
Don’t see how you can be so bearish in regards to a company whose products are so difficult to criticize.
TL;dr: The pros: all the very important things we all know about…performance, tech, value, ease of use.
The negatives: the silly things we all put up with…he doesn’t live near a service center, panel gaps, he’s a boomer and thinks buttons are luxurious so he prefers Audi and BMW ‘luxury’
TL;dr: The pros: all the very important things we all know about…performance, tech, value, ease of use.
The negatives: the silly things we all put up with…he doesn’t live near a service center, panel gaps, he’s a boomer and thinks buttons are luxurious so he prefers Audi and BMW ‘luxury’
Pretty easy to see to me
A classic example of "I enjoy the product, including my wife who will never drive anything other than Tesla for the future...........but my company is paid off to have a artificially low PT on Tesla"
Do you mean, worried about a snap back in SP to higher than my strike price and getting my shares called away?
Yes, I am slightly concerned. But I am only selling CCs on a portion of my shares. And the strike price I set is out of the money. So if the CCs are in play, that means my portfolio has done well. And I will deal with rolling them further out if that's what it takes.
There is a small risk that the SP rises so quickly that rolling up and out isn't a viable long term option. That's the risk I'm willing to take to accumulate more shares at these depressed prices.
ZachF
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Wait, did they lose $4b+ in a single quarter!?!?
I really do not get why he would write this article? He has a bearish view on $TSLA and he owns 2 Teslas? Something's gotta give here...either Bernstein is forcing his hand (Unknown reasons) to be bearish or he's just clueless....and he seems like he's semi smart.
So if Tesla builds 2 million vehicles in 2022, that saves 100,000 barrels per day, then that sounds pretty good.
ZachF
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Most people shorting Tesla could have performed better burying their money in holes i the yard, even if they forgot where they buried a lot of it…
StealthP3D
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Most people still view EV's as something being forced by concerns about climate change, an expensive and less than optimum compromise. They don't understand EV's make sense on every level, they think it's a sacrifice to switch to EV's for the sake of the environment.
Because of this misunderstanding, they see the war in Ukraine and all the economic sanctions as taking precedence, something that will temporarily remove the urgency to transition. That, combined with the uncertainty people feel about the future, is all it takes to remove the shine of a company with a valuation that many see as only making sense in an optimistic, utopian future, a future many see as further away than ever. They can't see how Tesla makes sense in a less prosperous future.
The fact remains, market valuations are a product of all investors, and many of them are incredibly dumb and unable to see the bigger picture. That's OK, it's normal and expected. Just know that time has a way of revealing all.
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