Probably like 10% growth of comparable previous quarter. They were already getting away with 30% and they knew no guidance would drop the stock price. So they obviously felt even 20% was something they could not publicly say.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Highland gets a big thumbs up from Marques Brownlee
Mod: 8 more posts discussing the Chancery court decision, after I told you to stop, deleted. You can continue discussion in the dedicated thread, but not this one. New facts are welcome here, but new opinions are not. Clear? --ggr
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Public reactions are seldom left to chance. Rather, they are carefully crafted in PR conference rooms to create maximum emotional affect: a.k.a. to manipulate public opinion.
In 2011, the CBC's George Stroumboulopoulos presented a 6-part documentary called "Love, Hate and Propaganda" which I highly recommend. It focuses on the WW2 era, but the principles shown are equally applicable today:
Cheers to the Critical Minds!
In 2011, the CBC's George Stroumboulopoulos presented a 6-part documentary called "Love, Hate and Propaganda" which I highly recommend. It focuses on the WW2 era, but the principles shown are equally applicable today:
Cheers to the Critical Minds!
China could very well reach net zero first before the US, modulo coal. I've heard about China reaching
"peak gasoline", believable due to the shear ICE -> EV conversion rate. And if coal is disintermediated,
there are fewer coal tankers to China, thus participating in a positive-feedback loop with less fossil fuel
transport, too.
To loop this back to Tesla Energy investment futures (gotta put the TSLA investor plug in here somewhere,
always!), there's a wonderful article in the latest Science Magazine about "Water Batteries" as a supplement
to near/medium/long-term Megapack sales.
The no-paywall article shows that Chinese engineering in this department also may move faster due to
less bureaucracy than elsewhere:
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2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Tidbit of note:
The U.S. Constitution has no bearing on who may be elected to state government. States have their own constitutions. The states created the U.S., not the other way round.
The U.S. only has absolute jurisdiction over D.C., and the territories and possessions of the U.S. (Guam, Puerto Rico, etc.), with the exception of any state rights their legislatures might have waived via contract in exchange for something from the U.S. (quite a few things in all honesty)
I can't imagine Elon being interested in any public office short of Emperor of Mars.
Also, as for any move after the Delaware Punch, I hope they decide on Nevada, or some other state with a long record of protecting business interests and demanding (enforcing) good behavior from any attorney running scam suit mills. I don't think Texas is ready for prime time in regard to protecting a business with gusto, the way some others have built a reputation for. Delaware used to count itself among those.
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I've sent a message to Roland asking if he could share his source.
- Tesla US - Best January ever
- +65% vs Jan 2023
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Point of sale tax credit + Cybertruck hype = Best January Ever
Even the expert gets wrong frequently. Or in this case, 0 out of 3.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
I come back after months absence, post, and see the mods are already aiming their nukes at the most important, ONGOING issue.
I've deleted and reposted here: Elon Compensation Package
I'm not even sure that's the thread the mod is referring to. I've been keeping up here.
Time for TSLA share buy backs. Make Uncle Leo happy
The Accountant
Active Member
I'm blocked by this nice gentleman. Can you tell me what Gary posted?
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
F it. No one reads the other dedicated threads that get zero activity per day on average. Here's the post I was talking about upthread.
I find it hard to believe anyone being honest and thinking clearly can argue with the following:
I didn't see anything in the procedural ruling that was difficult to understand for someone who isn't a lawyer, and I've now asked a lot of lawyers. Even if a Godlike lawyer came down from the sky and told me that the ruling made perfect legal sense, I'd then say, fine, some laws need to be changed, because this will lead to derangement down the line.
I find it hard to believe anyone being honest and thinking clearly can argue with the following:
- Overturning Musk's pay package might hurt future votes, even from supporters. They might think he already delivered and deserves no further pay.
- The judge did not understand the distinction between payment for continued and ongoing work, versus the incentive an individual has when owning shares (or options) in a company
- Shareholders voted on clear performance-based compensation, not board intentions. A transparent, even outrageous, plan with high goals would still get a vote. Rejecting the majority vote sets a bad precedent.
I didn't see anything in the procedural ruling that was difficult to understand for someone who isn't a lawyer, and I've now asked a lot of lawyers. Even if a Godlike lawyer came down from the sky and told me that the ruling made perfect legal sense, I'd then say, fine, some laws need to be changed, because this will lead to derangement down the line.
I believe what his trying to say is Meta is doing a lot better than TSLA so a buyback and dividends sound good. Where as Tesla can't do that.
I'm pretty impressed with the FCF generation. Meta managed to generate in 2 quarters all of TSLA's cash on hand to date. They gave guidance of 20% growth for the coming year too.
Tesla really is pathetic if you think about it lol.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
If you can kindly point at the part in the Tesla Mission Statement about making Koguan Leo 'happy', I'll remove my 'Disagree' on your comment.
Krugerrand
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