GhostSkater
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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How on earth does that jibe with Tesla offering to sell extended range packs sitting in the bed?
-Build in as few batteries as possible to get acceptable range and top performance
-Provide optimistic EPA numbers to that end
-Equals lower internal cost per vehicle, higher capacity to produce more vehicles with the same number of batteries
-Charge maximum price
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-Profit
This is the antithesis of something like the Silverado we’re seeing now with a massive 203kWh pack or whatever it is, lots of benefits to Tesla’s approach
Ya, I wondered how this might impact Founder Series sales. Sure looks half packed to me.
I thought the battery sandwich was supposed to be structural. The air gap can't help that cause... quite the mystery.
Hmm, given that a RT will be servicing folks ad-hoc, and hence won't know ahead of time what it's daily routes will be:
- As mentioned previously, how does it deal with cold weather (perhaps unanticipated)?
- How does it handle cases of significant elevation change?
- How does it handle situations that require more braking force than the motor can provide? (Reg performance Model 3's stop faster than they can accelerate... a RT would likely have an even less powerful motor)
Hmm.. I'm not so sure of that.
Model S's (at least early ones like mine) were somewhat infamous for rust/scale buildup on the discs because regen braking meant you didn't necessarily operate the friction brakes often enough to knock buildup off. Tesla actually addressed it in a firmware update that would occasionally briefly activate the brakes to reduce that. It helps, but doesn't eliminate it entirely.
I notice reduced braking efficiency when the rust has had a chance to start building up and then it improves after a couple of brake applications to clean them up...
Krugerrand
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Good news on cybertruck charge rates:
from Drew Baglino:
Which is awesome, as the one genuine complaint I kept seeing about the CT was the charge curve being a disappointment. Its not like Tesla was having trouble finding CT buyers (even pure foundation series ones) anyway, but ever bit helps.
Its funny how all the awesome stuff Tesla does gets forgoteen because we always chase the latest news. Robotaxi reveal date has everyone so excited we have forgotten that the cybertruck ramp is ongoing. Remember when all we had to be excited about was a rumored model 3 highland.
Lets not even mention that its time for a bot update.
And all the complainers come back to apologize for their impatience, derogatory commentary, etc… countdown in 15 minutes, 6 months, a decade, never.
Cybertruck is only at half pack.
AntonioD ex Tesla ex Munro current catl said it's a vent channel . Nothing to see here
If this is indeed the case... I have questions... firstly, why not make a bigger pack available for more $$$ instead of the bed battery?
Knightshade
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At the time many suggested the bed battery would never actually exist as a production thing--- if they have the ability to put more in the actual pack once 4680 ramp is better that might turn out to be true
Krugerrand
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One of those Tesla mysteries that’s likely to be revealed unexpectedly at a shareholder meeting or ER call or interview -
GhostSkater
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You need some space, because in a thermal event the guts and gasses from a cell have to have somewhere to go and cooldown, else you start a chain reaction (Bolt says hi), but the amount of room seems weird
Doesn't seem to be enough room for another layer of cells while still keeping a gap, but too much room just for venting purpose, so a few possibilities:
- Validate that 4680s are safe over millions of miles and them double stack the pack with little to no room for venting
- Taller cells coming soon
- Vestigial design choice from when the pack would be a double stack with lower cells, unlikely since the truck was redesigned when they made it smaller
GhostSkater
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$16k for a pack upgrade that doubles your range seems to be a sweet deal, maybe even more than doubles since 4680 will be ever improving, even with higher weight
BrownOuttaSpec
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Interesting court case in Switzerland linking climate change to humans right since it was ruled that it's "efforts to meet its emission reduction targets had been woefully inadequate". They are saying it could trickle to the other counters in Europe and UK, maybe an even more accelerated plan to move off fossil fuels.
www.bbc.com
European court rules human rights violated by climate inaction
"We are not made to sit in a rocking chair and knit," said one of the older Swiss women who won.
www.bbc.com
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GhostSkater
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Krugerrand
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So, exactly how Tesla has operated from Model S days. Release a highly functional vehicle and work on adding more functionality and perks for years.
Cybertruck battery pack isn't half full. It's a vent channel. Discussed by someone who worked at Tesla and now is at CATL (supposedly, I didn't verify)
GhostSkater
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The key point is that that channel is huge compared to what you see on other packs, even from Tesla themselves
You mean instead of the air channel that vents in case of a thermal runaway event ?
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