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And you've had the car for less than a year?

I've just checked my car for the last 6 months (in addition to earlier full life time) and there's a difference of 0.25% between the two - less than 7kW.

Try doing the calc for a shorter period to see what you get.
Hi,
Looks like the issue was the Gross consumption number. Took a long time for grafana to calculate and I guess I didnt wait for long enough! For 90 days - 5 years the diff is now 0.6-1.2%.

The interesting thing that came out of the analysis though is that the difference between net and gross consumption is between 15-25%. That is quite a lot! When one looks at headline efficiency, I was focussing on 250-300Wh/mile. that is not right from an economy point of view - cost is 20+% higher... (with ICE we measured petrol put in and miles driven (no concept of gross and net))

Units30 days90 days6 months1 year2 years5 yearsSource
NetWh/mi
291​
315​
339​
305​
305​
308​
Overview
GrossWh/mi
336​
388​
432​
359​
348​
353​
Overview
Charged in totalMWh
0.329​
0.839​
1.61​
3.64​
6.86​
7.81​
Charging Stats
Miles drivenmi
916​
2,142​
3,749​
10,060​
19,345​
21,759​
Drive stats
Odo startmi
22,840​
21,609​
19,988​
13,659​
3,933​
1,489​
Mileage
Odo endmi
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
Mileage
Miles driven Calc
918​
2,149​
3,770​
10,099​
19,825​
22,269​
Odo end-odo start
Energy usedMWh
0.308​
0.83​
1.62​
3.61​
6.73​
7.68​
Gross x miles driven
Energy usedMWh
0.308​
0.83​
1.63​
3.63​
6.90​
7.86​
Gross x miles driven (calc)
Diff between Charged in total and energy used calc
-6.2%​
-0.6%​
1.2%​
-0.4%​
0.6%​
0.7%​
Charged in total vs energy used calc
Gross vs net
15.5%
23.2%
27.4%
17.7%
14.1%
14.6%

I would be interested to hear whether others have similar differences between gross and net consumption - or do I need to call the service centre
 
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Hi,
Looks like the issue was the Gross consumption number. Took a long time for grafana to calculate and I guess I didnt wait for long enough! For 90 days - 5 years the diff is now 0.6-1.2%.

The interesting thing that came out of the analysis though is that the difference between net and gross consumption is between 15-25%. That is quite a lot! When one looks at headline efficiency, I was focussing on 250-300Wh/mile. that is not right from an economy point of view - cost is 20+% higher... (with ICE we measured petrol put in and miles driven (no concept of gross and net))

Units30 days90 days6 months1 year2 years5 yearsSource
NetWh/mi
291​
315​
339​
305​
305​
308​
Overview
GrossWh/mi
336​
388​
432​
359​
348​
353​
Overview
Charged in totalMWh
0.329​
0.839​
1.61​
3.64​
6.86​
7.81​
Charging Stats
Miles drivenmi
916​
2,142​
3,749​
10,060​
19,345​
21,759​
Drive stats
Odo startmi
22,840​
21,609​
19,988​
13,659​
3,933​
1,489​
Mileage
Odo endmi
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
Mileage
Miles driven Calc
918​
2,149​
3,770​
10,099​
19,825​
22,269​
Odo end-odo start
Energy usedMWh
0.308​
0.83​
1.62​
3.61​
6.73​
7.68​
Gross x miles driven
Energy usedMWh
0.308​
0.83​
1.63​
3.63​
6.90​
7.86​
Gross x miles driven (calc)
Diff between Charged in total and energy used calc
-6.2%​
-0.6%​
1.2%​
-0.4%​
0.6%​
0.7%​
Charged in total vs energy used calc
Gross vs net
15.5%
23.2%
27.4%
17.7%
14.1%
14.6%

I would be interested to hear whether others have similar differences between gross and net consumption - or do I need to call the service centre
Does your car sleep overnight? Sentry is the biggest hog for undriven energy use.
 
Hi,
Looks like the issue was the Gross consumption number. Took a long time for grafana to calculate and I guess I didnt wait for long enough! For 90 days - 5 years the diff is now 0.6-1.2%.

The interesting thing that came out of the analysis though is that the difference between net and gross consumption is between 15-25%. That is quite a lot! When one looks at headline efficiency, I was focussing on 250-300Wh/mile. that is not right from an economy point of view - cost is 20+% higher... (with ICE we measured petrol put in and miles driven (no concept of gross and net))

Units30 days90 days6 months1 year2 years5 yearsSource
NetWh/mi
291​
315​
339​
305​
305​
308​
Overview
GrossWh/mi
336​
388​
432​
359​
348​
353​
Overview
Charged in totalMWh
0.329​
0.839​
1.61​
3.64​
6.86​
7.81​
Charging Stats
Miles drivenmi
916​
2,142​
3,749​
10,060​
19,345​
21,759​
Drive stats
Odo startmi
22,840​
21,609​
19,988​
13,659​
3,933​
1,489​
Mileage
Odo endmi
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
23,758​
Mileage
Miles driven Calc
918​
2,149​
3,770​
10,099​
19,825​
22,269​
Odo end-odo start
Energy usedMWh
0.308​
0.83​
1.62​
3.61​
6.73​
7.68​
Gross x miles driven
Energy usedMWh
0.308​
0.83​
1.63​
3.63​
6.90​
7.86​
Gross x miles driven (calc)
Diff between Charged in total and energy used calc
-6.2%​
-0.6%​
1.2%​
-0.4%​
0.6%​
0.7%​
Charged in total vs energy used calc
Gross vs net
15.5%
23.2%
27.4%
17.7%
14.1%
14.6%

I would be interested to hear whether others have similar differences between gross and net consumption - or do I need to call the service centre
My difference is similar. A lot of it is that I charge on a 120v which is much less efficient. Also, I use sentry when away from home and it is power hungry.
 
I've had such success with this thread fixing my quirks - I've got one more I'll try to identify here.

The past few months I've noticed teslamate stops working (usually because location automation to open garage door doesn't work), if I check the website I find this:

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simply restarting the pi that hosts the teslamate docker containers gets it all working again. I don't need to re-enter tokens.

The past week I've been stuck home (thanks covid) and noticed this has been occurring nearly every day. Trying to figure out what was different about this week, I had a brainwave.

My home assistant box also hosts my network DHCP server and I've been making a few changes to that, so doing some restarts. Is it feasible that this is causing the API calls to fail and it doesn't recover?

note that I'm able to log in directly using the correct IP over SSH to restart the containers.

I'd love to figure a fix for this.
 
I've had such success with this thread fixing my quirks - I've got one more I'll try to identify here.

The past few months I've noticed teslamate stops working (usually because location automation to open garage door doesn't work), if I check the website I find this:

View attachment 942828

simply restarting the pi that hosts the teslamate docker containers gets it all working again. I don't need to re-enter tokens.

The past week I've been stuck home (thanks covid) and noticed this has been occurring nearly every day. Trying to figure out what was different about this week, I had a brainwave.

My home assistant box also hosts my network DHCP server and I've been making a few changes to that, so doing some restarts. Is it feasible that this is causing the API calls to fail and it doesn't recover?

note that I'm able to log in directly using the correct IP over SSH to restart the containers.

I'd love to figure a fix for this.
What do the TeslaMate container logs say? What version of TeslaMate are you running?

Cannot imagine a DHCP or IP change triggering a token refresh.
 
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The first question to ask when something stops working is what has changed?
Why have you made changes to your DHCP server?
I'm not a network expert, but wonder if there is some code to prevent a man in the middle attack that is triggering the token refresh screen. Could you have two devices with the same IP address? Perhaps an overlap with DHCP and static addresses?
 
Likewise here, although the effect is a bit more obvious. We have two Tesla EVs, TMY and TM3. All the Teslamate "Dashboard" pages used to have a section per car. Now only one shows up (the TMY) with 'null' as its name.

The "Teslamate" page with map position and current stats still shows both cars, but with generic "Model Y LR AWD" and "Model 3 LR AWD".

Seems Tesla has made a breaking API change.

Edit: Teslamate issue #3183