I received the Holiday Update 2023.44.30.4 but none of the updates are for my vehicles (I own 2 2015 Model S's) or maybe I'm mistaken, can someone else confirm that these updates are not for older Model S?
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Thanks Bruce that is true, but I may have my terminology incorrect, what years are considered legacy, I've seen a few post where people with 2020 vehicles are saying legacy even though they are able to use some of the new features.I don't think we know, but I'll say this...no software updates means no new bugs.
Bruce.
Thanks Bruce that is true, but I may have my terminology incorrect, what years are considered legacy, I've seen a few post where people with 2020 vehicles are saying legacy even though they are able to use some of the new features.
Oh ok got it, I have AP1 and MCU-2 in both of mine, thanks for clearing that up for meYeah, "legacy" is kind of an ambiguous word. To me, right now, it means cars that: 1) have MCU1 or 2) have no Autopilot or 3) have AP1 hardware. All three of those (which overlap considerably) are unlikely to receive substantial or regular software updates, based on what I've seen the past few years. Despite (or maybe because of) a lack of software updates, my 2015 Model S 85D continues to work well.
As an aside, another funny word is "refresh" because there's been several different versions of the Model S that could be called "refresh". But at least some of those versions have names to disambiguate like "Palladium" (2021-present), "Raven" (approximately 2018-2020). etc.
Bruce.
Wow that unfortunate, and I do see your point.Older hardware combinations are unlikely to receive many updates except it is a recall like the recent ones, probably later though. I will worry more about finding the hardware parts for replacement in case of accident or even repair since S is a low volumes model and designs have changed over time. My charge port is malfunctioned and is now waiting for parts, estimated 4 weeks...
FSD works on HW3 and there are not much differences between HW4 at least for now.it seems to be a mix of small hardware differences and planned obsolescence. I have a late 2019 raven s with FSD, which does not have the pedestrian warning system speaker (PWS) and has the USS ultrasonic sensors.
With this configuration, I don’t get High Fidelity Park because it is based on TeslaVision vs my USS, I don’t have boombox so no outside of the car sounds. Finally, I don’t have blind side cameras because Tesla doesn’t want to spend time on vertical screen software updates. Games and other stuff typically come through.
What I am interested to know is will my paid up FSD run on HW3 or will it require HW4 to operate properly? Also, the Feds are deciding whether or not the PWS needs to be added to pre-2020 EV’s. With these changes I should be able to run a bunch more of the upcoming updates.
Yeah, "legacy" is kind of an ambiguous word. To me, right now, it means cars that: 1) have MCU1 or 2) have no Autopilot or 3) have AP1 hardware. All three of those (which overlap considerably) are unlikely to receive substantial or regular software updates, based on what I've seen the past few years. Despite (or maybe because of) a lack of software updates, my 2015 Model S 85D continues to work well.
As an aside, another funny word is "refresh" because there's been several different versions of the Model S that could be called "refresh". But at least some of those versions have names to disambiguate like "Palladium" (2021-present), "Raven" (approximately 2018-2020). etc.
Bruce.
Which models were heat pump vs non-heat pump? IAt least in my mind, the dividing line is basically "Heat Pump" vs. "No Heat Pump".
That's where the major architectural changes came into play ... Every Model S from 2012-mid-2020 were fundamentally similar. The "Palladium" Model S has a radically different architecture - much more like a Model 3 than anything.
So my preferred terminology is "Classic" Model S (for the non-heat-pump versions) and "Modern" Model S (for heat pump models.)
Not sure if there's any better dividing line, but it's the "old" architecture vs. "Model-3-like" architecture.
Anyway, the good news is that my "Classic" Model X got the latest update. Not a whole lot of new functionality but it did also upgrade the FSD code, so there's that. Still waiting for an update on my "Modern" Model S.
Which models were heat pump vs non-heat pump? I
17MS75D has the 2023.44.30.6, but no new notes.
This week, I’ve been losing the ability to use cruise control or FSD off and on during each day. When I try to engage either, I am
You can try to calibrate the camera, I experienced the same problem but after calibration, FSD works again.told it’s not available with no other notifications or explanation. I submitted an issue with Tesla to see what it is about. It’s a new issue with this update. (When it’s not working, it appears that something is wrong with the front camera as the stoplights don’t show up on my instrument panel.)
Thank you for sharing. After complaining on here, it hasn’t repeated the problem.You can try to calibrate the camera, I experienced the same problem but after calibration, FSD works again.