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TSLA now about 2.5% behind Nasdaq. I think today & tomorrow are going to be difficult to predict - for both TSLA & Nasdaq. We'll have to wait for the Fed press conference tomorrow (2 pm ?).
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Well last december it went from 345 to 316
Dec 2016 from 202 to 216
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NASDAQ futures did big 40-50 handles swings today already, five times (up, down, up, down, up ...) within just 1.5 hours of trading. So maybe the panic isn't fully over yet, but this sure looks like an unusual pattern.
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Yeah, I really loved that new $420 target: it signals an analyst who does not shy away from whatever price target the models suggest, or an analyst with a good sense of humor. Or both.
During the last couple of days, I've been buying modest amounts in the $340s and $350s. Seems like a great buying opportunity, partly thanks to recent developments like tariff relief for China sales - perfect timing for Tesla to build sales momentum there.
Anyone has a clue why this guy Adam Jonas is still not positive on TSLA. Piss me off.
Don't be pissed off - be thrilled. If everyone was positive on Tesla, the stock would be ridiculously expensive. The whole point is to buy cheap, sell high after Tesla proves itself to the world. You need naysayers for this to be possible.
anthonyj
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Upgrades and downgrades are a scheme. Upgrades near the top are used to generate retail interest in the stock so institutions can unload their shares with less slippage. Downgrades are used for the opposite
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ZachF
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Santa Claus, where art thou?
What are you, an owl?
Off Shore
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I'm barred from answering that.
Dealing criminals....after past two days big sell, they came out say negative things and plan to buy low.
With puns like that, I bet you're a hoot at parties :Þ
Yeah, this smells of market manipulation, although Jonas and Tambourine-O are such idiots that it may just be rampant stupidity.
(Fred warning: https://electrek.co/2018/12/18/tesla-tsla-morgan-stanley-goldman-sachs/ )
Both Jonas and Tambourine-O want Tesla to raise capital by going to MS or GS (with the associated high fees) and are really annoyed that Tesla isn't going to, so they're pretending that Tesla is going to.
Anyone who can do arithmetic can tell that Tesla isn't going to. I anticipate that Tesla will end Q4 with about the same amount of cash they had at the end of Q3 (profits in Q4 should be similar to or slightly higher than in Q3, and the required bond payoffs are roughly equal to the profits from Q3), and more access to secured credit (the entire Warehouse Line was just turned into an asset-backed loan, freeing the Warehouse Line up again). With 3.5 billion in cash, Tesla will have no problem paying off the $920 million bond on March 1, and of course there will be more profits during Q1.
Anyway, I'm selling more DOTM puts, although it makes me uncomfortably leveraged (...for about a month). I can still execute all of them by selling my other, non-TSLA stocks. If I have to. I probably won't have to.
I decided that selling puts was a better way to leverage than using margin to buy stock directly. I get *paid* for the time value, and the worst that happens is that I buy the stock cheap and end up on margin. The disadvantage is that if the stock runs up quick and fast and permanently, I lose out on the upside of having more stock, but I already have so much stock owned outright that I am OK with that. I do have a lot of other stocks to back my put sales with though -- I would *not* back them with TSLA stock, as that's overcorrelated and risks margin calls.
(Fred warning: https://electrek.co/2018/12/18/tesla-tsla-morgan-stanley-goldman-sachs/ )
Both Jonas and Tambourine-O want Tesla to raise capital by going to MS or GS (with the associated high fees) and are really annoyed that Tesla isn't going to, so they're pretending that Tesla is going to.
Anyone who can do arithmetic can tell that Tesla isn't going to. I anticipate that Tesla will end Q4 with about the same amount of cash they had at the end of Q3 (profits in Q4 should be similar to or slightly higher than in Q3, and the required bond payoffs are roughly equal to the profits from Q3), and more access to secured credit (the entire Warehouse Line was just turned into an asset-backed loan, freeing the Warehouse Line up again). With 3.5 billion in cash, Tesla will have no problem paying off the $920 million bond on March 1, and of course there will be more profits during Q1.
Anyway, I'm selling more DOTM puts, although it makes me uncomfortably leveraged (...for about a month). I can still execute all of them by selling my other, non-TSLA stocks. If I have to. I probably won't have to.
I decided that selling puts was a better way to leverage than using margin to buy stock directly. I get *paid* for the time value, and the worst that happens is that I buy the stock cheap and end up on margin. The disadvantage is that if the stock runs up quick and fast and permanently, I lose out on the upside of having more stock, but I already have so much stock owned outright that I am OK with that. I do have a lot of other stocks to back my put sales with though -- I would *not* back them with TSLA stock, as that's overcorrelated and risks margin calls.
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CyberDutchie
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He is calling this quarter the peak for TSLA. Looking at the month so far, and the way the stock is heading today, it likely means the peak for the stock was around $378.
Congratulations to everyone who sold near the peak!
It’s downhill from here on, Tesla will struggle to survive. The establishment has woken up and will soon unleash all their “Tesla killers” into the market, forcing Tesla out of business.
The stock will go to zero, Adam Jonas told you so!
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