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Analyst consensus was 28,000 -- reality was 28,578. So "somewhat better than analyst consensus" is accurate.
Ugh, why am I not surprised that we spike on good news and then end up red during the day? A lot of analysts are probably butt hurt that Tesla is beating their bearish outlook. It's okay, I'm still holding onto my shares. I didn't want to risk selling in pre-market and try to buy back lower this time around, it was too risky in case stock decides to shoot up north.
On October 1, 2016, CFRA acquired S&P Global’s Equity and Fund Research business. They have some influence on institutional investors. Efraim Levy was one of the analysts involved in the move from S&P to CFRA. He has regularly bounced between Hold and Sell on TSLA, but always with qualifications regarding potential positives as again is the case today.
Remember, Musk didn't predict the short burn of the century would happen this week -- he said next weekend (approximately).
And since he's notoriously optimistic about timelines, you might want to add three weeks to that.
No dry powder here so I'm just watching.
And since he's notoriously optimistic about timelines, you might want to add three weeks to that.
No dry powder here so I'm just watching.
But not sure that's what he meant when he says short burn of the century
Chinese GF announcement as per Annual Shareholder Meeting is probably the match that will light everything up.
agree. bought some short term options this morning after the 7k announcement + 1gwh project and added more when the production numbers came out. everything was very positive in my opinion and i really thought a short squeeze could begin.
just trying to understand where they get this "factory gated" from and how easily it could be debunked. So does anyone has the full letter to employees?
sweter
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But not sure that's what he meant when he says short burn of the century
Maybe it was a typo and he meant "shortEST" burn?
WTH is wrong with this world.
mutle
Member
Days like this are why I don’t trade in options. No worries for long stock holders.
Given the insane-high IV, if I am in a position to buy more stock this week, I'm planning to sell deep OTM puts (maybe $550? $600?) in order to acquire stock while harvesting IV and time value. (The danger: the stock actually skyrockets past the price and I end up with the cash rather than the stock.) I don't think I have the margin capacity to do it comfortably though, so I'll have to calculate.
And,
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/vide...paign=headline&cmpId=yhoo.headline&yptr=yahoo
This game is not going away anytime soon.
As much as Gordon Johnson is on the media megaphone we have an opening in the comments section to point out his apparent association with Jim Chanos, and Chanos’ apparent campaign of misinformation and Chanos goonish activities in regard to Fairfax Holdings as raised in Fairfax’s lawsuit and Matt Tiabbi’s book of investigative journalism.
If the media keeps putting these guys on air, we can keep alerting people to heavy concerns re their operating via falsehoods, attempts to mislead, bully, etc.
Put it in the comments section when these guys are given the media megaphone. Taibbi’s name and book are worth having at least as well known as Jim Chanos and Gordon Johnson. If we start doing this, and refer to chapter 6 of The Divide (Taibbi’s book) awareness will multiply. They are spreading misinformation, we can spread awareness about the misinformation.
Why should it be? The announcement would equate to more expenditures on Tesla's part. Especially how it's going to be funded, and you know how analysts love to come up with random BS...
I think "Factory Gate" in this case means finished and ready fro delivery, I take it as a more positive working than "produced".
But WTF do I know?
But WTF do I know?
Well coordinated news nullification, analyst downgrades, the whole kit. These guys think they should run the world, so when someone publicly calls them out as wrong, like Elon did, they are going to hit back hard. Anything to give the impression they were right and the "market doesnt care" about supposed good news. Wonder how long they can keep it up?
Kenriko
Former Vendor
Yes there is no way there are enough random day traders sitting in their underwear that think "Good news about TSLA, let me initiate a short position NOW!" to account for this kind of market action - it takes a ton of shorting to push the stock down ~$25 against exuberant bulls.
Zhelko Dimic
Careful bull
It almost makes sense to question demand the way you are questioning, but where is your imagination? You must think worst case scenario (for you) when shorting, no? So how about all the demand levers Tesla still can pull?
- AWD + Performance
- new geographical markets (US is just under 50% for S/X, smaller M3 is likely to do better in Europe, and places with less disposable income than USA)
- availability of cars to see (there are lineups now)
- availability of cars to drive
- stop anti-selling it
- organize event for 100 journalists the way all other companies do it, to get onslaught of synchronized coverage
- establish a press fleet, so there is someone borrowing car for the week every week and then writing about it.
- cars on the street - Teslas spread in every new local like a waves from the peble. The longer and more cars are present in the market more people realize EV is genuinely an option. I remember my own mindset shift in 2015 that shocked me, and I've seen it again and again.
C'mon. These are things I though on the fly and there are people in Tesla that will be in charge of developing and pulling those levers should there be a need. BMW is selling around 600K of 3 Series, Tesla should be able to do around or more than that, even thought it may not have as many different models as BMW has. And if you ask why, see what Model S has done in large luxury segment. And Tesla is a better car. I've had 3 Series 3 (including fabulous E46 M3), so I should know...
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