Updating navigation without updating software?

[Black Dahlia]

Anyone able to update their navigation without updating their software?

Been on 2022.44.25.3 (ff63b3ae90e). Have zero interest in updating it.

Went to do my daily commute today. Told me to update navigation. From what I always remembered, navigation was always separate to the software and updated in the background. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.

Anyway. Tethered the car to my phone and started downloading some 2023 software in hopes that navigation would update in the background. Couldn't finish the download during the 1 hour commute. Canceled at around 98%. Figured if it completed, it would automatically update the car, so didn't wait.

 

[JulienW]

The Navigation Data file is a totally different download and file that happens about once every 9 months. It is listed in the Menu under Software below your car's software version. Also the Navigation Data file will get invisible Delta updates dynamically.

Here is an older pic of mine downloading.

 

[Supcom]

The Navigation Data file is a totally different download and file that happens about once every 9 months. It is listed in the Menu under Software below your car's software version. Also the Navigation Data file will get invisible Delta updates dynamically.

Here is an older pic of mine downloading.

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It is possible that the nav data has a minimum software level requirement that changes from time to time. If additonal fields are added to the database, for example, the car might stop getting new nav data until the software is updated.

 

[Black Dahlia]

The Navigation Data file is a totally different download and file that happens about once every 9 months. It is listed in the Menu under Software below your car's software version. Also the Navigation Data file will get invisible Delta updates dynamically.

Here is an older pic of mine downloading.

View attachment 1017586

That's what I figured. Appreciate that. I did a hard reboot and it fixed it.

 

[Black Dahlia]

It is possible that the nav data has a minimum software level requirement that changes from time to time. If additonal fields are added to the database, for example, the car might stop getting new nav data until the software is updated.

They really need to make it so that navigation will still work without forcing an update.

 

[Supcom]

They really need to make it so that navigation will still work without forcing an update.

I can't see any compelling reason for Tesla to do that.

 

[Black Dahlia]

I can't see any compelling reason for Tesla to do that.

Loss of cell connection. GPS sats are reliable and everywhere. Cellular isn't.

There's a lot of areas in Socal that you can easily lose cell service.

 

[JulienW]

Loss of cell connection. GPS sats are reliable and everywhere. Cellular isn't.

There's a lot of areas in Socal that you can easily lose cell service.

[confused]What does that have to do with updating you cars firmware to the most current version? If anything Tesla has improved the abilities to handle cell service drops.