Dewg
Active Member
It's improving over time. Some updates regress and feel worse, and some improve markedly. But over time it's gotten better at least for me.Has it still been improving lately or has it started to feel like a plateau ?
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It's improving over time. Some updates regress and feel worse, and some improve markedly. But over time it's gotten better at least for me.Has it still been improving lately or has it started to feel like a plateau ?
I have owned one for about 6 months now and have not noticed any improvement (or changes).Has it still been improving lately or has it started to feel like a plateau ?
Are you sure you're not mixing Autopilot and TACC because it only warns while activating the Autopilot on non divided highways (it states that over limit is limited to +10 km/h). If TACC can only be used on highways, what the heck am I supposed to use as CRUISE CONTROL on rural roads or any other types of roads??? Do you realize the nonsense you've just wrote?Those divided highways are where you're supposed to use TACC. Doesn't anyone read manuals or visit websites with knowledgeable owners?
Yes, Autopilot has the more significant restrictions, but I err on the side of caution and avoid TACC on non-highway (non-divided) roads. Both my cars have radar and I can see why vision only can cause PB by oncoming traffic on any road not perfectly straight.Are you sure you're not mixing Autopilot and TACC because it only warns while activating the Autopilot on non divided highways (it states that over limit is limited to +10 km/h). If TACC can only be used on highways, what the heck am I supposed to use as CRUISE CONTROL on rural roads or any other types of roads??? Do you realize the nonsense you've just wrote?
Yes, there is a lawsuit in the works. The plaintiff is requesting class-action status. If it's granted, you'll be notified by the court for your participation in the class. You can also do a few Google searches and keep an eye on the case if you're afraid you'll be left out.So we are over a year since the original posted had the issues and we still have the same experiences. 2021 model 3 here. Radar for first 14 months of ownership. Absolutely fell in love with it and I’m a “I like to drive and have control of the car” kinda guy. It got me to convince a couple family members to get the car. Dad got his y with no radar and his autopilot would do things I never experienced
I finally got the vision only update a month or two ago and it is so bad and not even comparable to radar, I cannot even use simple cruise control. Took mother in law on a 2 hour trip to a Concert and 20 minutes already have 4-5 phantom braking incidents that I’m apologizing for. Haven’t had a road trip without countless phantom brakes and random slow downs. Mainly cresting over hills and patches in the road, but also when the sun is low and behind you, casting a shadow in front of the car. Almost un driveable, and I refuse to drive at night now with how bad the auto high beams are and how you need them
I used to be the guy defending Tesla saying they are great despite their quirks but now I legit tell people to just wait until another manufacturers or the public catches up with charging networks to get an ev
Driving my brothers newish Volkswagen with cruise and lane centring for a long stretch with no issues really was the nail in the coffin for me on how bad Tesla really is right now at basic features
Does anyone know if there is a lawsuit or something because this is not the same car I bought and fell in love with ?
Very similar experiences. I updated from a radar enabled version to Tesla Vision only, which wasnt part of the release notes... only reason I even noticed the car was now radar only was that min following distance was 2... reading the release notes after update, the "welcome to Vision only" was buried... apparently the SW version skipped over...So we are over a year since the original posted had the issues and we still have the same experiences. 2021 model 3 here. Radar for first 14 months of ownership. Absolutely fell in love with it and I’m a “I like to drive and have control of the car” kinda guy. It got me to convince a couple family members to get the car. Dad got his y with no radar and his autopilot would do things I never experienced
I finally got the vision only update a month or two ago and it is so bad and not even comparable to radar, I cannot even use simple cruise control. Took mother in law on a 2 hour trip to a Concert and 20 minutes already have 4-5 phantom braking incidents that I’m apologizing for. Haven’t had a road trip without countless phantom brakes and random slow downs. Mainly cresting over hills and patches in the road, but also when the sun is low and behind you, casting a shadow in front of the car. Almost un driveable, and I refuse to drive at night now with how bad the auto high beams are and how you need them
I used to be the guy defending Tesla saying they are great despite their quirks but now I legit tell people to just wait until another manufacturers or the public catches up with charging networks to get an ev
Driving my brothers newish Volkswagen with cruise and lane centring for a long stretch with no issues really was the nail in the coffin for me on how bad Tesla really is right now at basic features
Does anyone know if there is a lawsuit or something because this is not the same car I bought and fell in love with ?
I had similar issues the month or so before they turned off radar, but yes, it has also gotten much worse after it was turned off entirely.I have a 2020 model 3 so it went from radar to vision only with the update. Just wondering if anyone else noticed their car not really maintaining following distance consistently now. It's almost like my car is always either moving closer or further away from the car in front of me while on autopilot. It just constantly does it. I'm am wondering if this is just my car or if it's something they have to do with vision only.
Maybe it's how they calculate depth perception?
I am going to try the camera calibration. See if that fixes it. Maybe it's just my car.
A agree with Dewg.This is not normal behavior, guys. There are many people with near flawless AP on vision only. It's important to make sure the cameras and GPS are working well. Calibrate the cameras, and check your GPS to make sure it's perfectly accurate (zoom in and make sure your car is showing on the road and not off the road, even a little).
I have my follow distance set to 7, as I like more of a cushion since traffic in SoCal goes from 80 to 0 for no reason. My car follows the car ahead well, keeps the distance pretty accurately. It's not instant, meaning if the car ahead accelerates, the Tesla will accelerate to close the gap, but may do so slower than you're used to.
If your car is only 6 months old, you only know what Tesla Vision is capable of, and never experienced Radar enable driving.A agree with Dewg.
Just came back from 3000km long vacation, and AP was near flawless. My wife doesn't drive, and she wants me to keep AP on all the time. I also do almost 300km drive every weekend, and the results are similar.
I am really puzzled why some people's experiences are so much worse. AP was REALLY bad when I first got the car 6 months ago. It's not even comparable now.