Volvo V60 charging at a Supercharger - comments?

[ScepticMatt]

Fremont is pretty unlikely to support even that unless it is expanded significantly. NUMMI averaged just over 300k, and it was an assembly-only plant. Tesla also does production of nearly all the components used in the Model S/X on-site in Fremont, which takes up a substantial amount of space. It will be interesting to see how Tesla manages their production capability build-out as time goes on.

To answer your OT question:

Tesla is buying/leasing lots in the vincinity of NUMMI, e.g. 431k foot worth in lathrop, 411+500k Solyndra plants, 300k industrial building, 4 acre UAW hall.
They also bought Riviera Tool, a Michigan-based, a parts supplier specializing in stamping parts.
Tesla leases 901 Page Ave. in Fremont, a former Solyndra building - Silicon Valley Business Journal
Tesla buys Michigan auto supplier

 

[Ingineer]

Why would a PHEV with a small pack need a SC? In fact, even if it had the SC hardware/software, it's unlikely it's small pack would be able to take much of a charge rate.

The whole point of a PHEV is that it can also run on fossil fuel, no fast-charge needed.

 

[46&2]

Forum, as it goes. I believe one single Volvo driver made a mistake or tried to park there, while pretending to be charging. The Forum goes wild and thinks Tesla is about to buy China. And Greece. And a factory producing parts to make own stamps in the future. Funny, as no one uses stamps anyway, these days. Maybe Elon can put stamps on e-mail...

 

[Ames]

Time for a new thread? "Pictures of non-Teslas trying to Supercharge..."

 

[mwulff]

Or maybe he was not talkative because he simply didn't understand Danish? It's not that easy for a Swede to comprehend
Anyway, he wouldn't be the first one to plug in a Volvo at a supercharger in Sweden

Ohh come on, we have chats with swedes and norwegians every week at the Middelfart supercharger. It's not easy but we all understand each other just fine if we want to

 

[Ingineer]

Time for a new thread? "Pictures of non-Teslas trying to Supercharge..."

That one is hilarious! The LEAF owner is trying to figure out where the SC plug fits to no avail! =)

 

[bylund]

Ohh come on, we have chats with swedes and norwegians every week at the Middelfart supercharger. It's not easy but we all understand each other just fine if we want to

Yes of course, hence the smiley.

I would read very little into some people testing if they can charge when they see a plug that fits.
Volvo has publicly stated they don't believe in BEVs http://www.expressen.se/motor/volvochef-om-tesla-ingen-smart-losning/ (in Swedish). They believe the way forward is PHEVs, and they definitely don't need supercharging, with those smaller battery packs.

 

[Johan]

Yeah enough with the conspiracy theories. If Volvo were doing testing they'd bring a C30 BEV, not a V50 PHEV. And not one with the logo of an unrelated company!

 

[mgboyes]

Time for a new thread? "Pictures of non-Teslas trying to Supercharge..."

Yes!! Anyone have any others?

But isn't that i3 plugged into what looks like a slow charge point (silver cabinet between the two SC ones)? Hard to say from this angle...

 

[dpeilow]

Hahahahhaha.

One guy plugs into a supercharger - probably to avoid a parking ticket - and you guys make a 5 page thread :biggrin:


I know there are forum members that own Renault Zoes. Let's start some more conspiracy theories that Renault are joining the party

 

[ATC@LWSK]

If Volvo (Geely) are testing superchargers (with consent and in cooperation with TM), why wouldn't they do it in their own premises, out of the public sight?

 

[Saghost]

Why would a PHEV with a small pack need a SC? In fact, even if it had the SC hardware/software, it's unlikely it's small pack would be able to take much of a charge rate.

The whole point of a PHEV is that it can also run on fossil fuel, no fast-charge needed.

Absolutely. There's no way an 11 kWh battery of conventional chemistry is receiving 120 kW, and little reason to DCFC an 11 kWh battery.

But if this is some super secret test rather than operator incompetence, what make you think those are actually PHEVs with little 11 kWh batteries?

If you believe the scenario being proposed, they'd be mules for an unreleased 200+ mile BEV version of the Volvo.
Walter

 

[Johan]

Absolutely. There's no way an 11 kWh battery of conventional chemistry is receiving 120 kW, and little reason to DCFC an 11 kWh battery.

But if this is some super secret test rather than operator incompetence, what make you think those are actually PHEVs with little 11 kWh batteries?

If you believe the scenario being proposed, they'd be mules for an unreleased 200+ mile BEV version of the Volvo.
Walter

... And those are much more likely C30s seeing how that's Volvo's concept BEV.

 

[Saghost]

... And those are much more likely C30s seeing how that's Volvo's concept BEV.

But we know from the pictures these aren't the C30s...

 

[Johan]

But we know from the pictures these aren't the C30s...

Point in case

 

[Yggdrasill]

I know I've also seen a picture of an e-Up plugged in. I think it was a company car for a hair salon or something.

 

[Hookmaker]

Well, I sent the pic to the Tesla Suc support network yesterday, let's see if they answer.
To add a bit to the suspension, one of our very active Teslaforum.dk users actually talked to the SuC installation team while they were finishing up the first SuC in Denmark last year (the Middelfart (!!) suC). There was an extra set of power supply boxes inside the main power station, and the technician said that this was not for an extra SuC set, but in stead it was "reserved" for the Volvo Corporation....

 

[mknox]

Another Leaf at a Supercharger although I think this driver was just being a dick, because the sign (at the time) simply said "Electric Vehicle Parking". The pickup driver is absolutely a dick.

 

[MorrisonHiker]

Why would a PHEV with a small pack need a SC? In fact, even if it had the SC hardware/software, it's unlikely it's small pack would be able to take much of a charge rate.

The whole point of a PHEV is that it can also run on fossil fuel, no fast-charge needed.

The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV's battery is only 12 kWh but it includes CHAdeMO fast-charging in most countries. Why use fossil fuel if you can charge for free?

 

[SwedishAdvocate]

.../ To add a bit to the suspension, one of our very active Teslaforum.dk users actually talked to the SuC installation team while they were finishing up the first SuC in Denmark last year (the Middelfart (!!) suC). There was an extra set of power supply boxes inside the main power station, and the technician said that this was not for an extra SuC set, but in stead it was "reserved" for the Volvo Corporation....

Do you know if it was Volvo Group or Volvo Cars?


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.../ If Volvo were doing testing they'd bring a C30 BEV, not a V50 PHEV. /...

Why? I would think that it's a lot easier to cram a 60+ kWh battery into a V60 than a C30...