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EcoHeliGuy
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having wasted many hours in a dedicated thread on this topic specifically
I think the difference between Liftback, hatchback and wagon (or estate) seems to be nothing more than the angle of the rear door/gate.
Shallow - like the Model S or how about Rover SD1 for a blast from the past would be a lift back
45degree (+/- 10) is a hatchback
80-90 degrees becomes a wagon or estate/shooting brake
The biggest difference is that most manufacturers refer to the lift back as a sedan.
I think that sums up weeks of postings
stopcrazypp
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I think he is saying the Model 3 will not be a traditional "hatchback" (like Focus, Mazda 3, etc). If it is a hatchback it'll be a "sedan-like" hatchback like the Model S. The sedan body style is still the most popular body style in the USA and the USA is still projected to be Tesla's largest market.
McHoffa
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EcoHeliGuy
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Doesn't look anything like the cars from Demolition Man or Total Recall (org) better draw another one[emoji4]
EcoHeliGuy
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Looks good, nice job. But I reckon it looks too much like model S and apparently looking like model S would be horrible for the model 3 so.. Meh.
McHoffa
CyberOwners
Yea, maybe. But it's an Weird-mobile that has some good ideas to it. No, I don't want Model 3 to be a replica of this, but I see some design elements that I would not reject if I find them on the Model 3... And it has a very low Cd - 0.192 - lower then 0.200
EcoHeliGuy
Member
I meant the car from demolition man.
I like your sketch, but tesla figured out Falcon wing doors on the Model X, I have a hard time believing they will be omitted on the Model 3.
Elon said they were hard and probably shouldn't have been done. But that R&D has been taken care of now. And you have door handles, I'm not expecting those.
EcoHeliGuy
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I wonder if the wheel arches will be flared like this
The battery pack would have lots of space, great stability, and lower frontal surface for drag compared to same foot print and wider cabin.
The battery pack would have lots of space, great stability, and lower frontal surface for drag compared to same foot print and wider cabin.
Brad_SC
Member
I think that this first photo gets too much attention in all the wrong places... So I marked my area of interest (yea, it's probably just a Model X also, haha).
Other than the wheels, I don't see anything here that specifically states this is a Tesla clay model. Do you guys?
Someone did a decent job of painting a car over the above clay model.
Other than the wheels, I don't see anything here that specifically states this is a Tesla clay model. Do you guys?
Someone did a decent job of painting a car over the above clay model.
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EcoHeliGuy
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The problem with clay models is that after maybe a month they are no longer current. You design the car in cad and then need a real life size example to make sure the proportions are human tested and correct. These images are a couple years old and get made to study body lines like the detail across the doors. Even once you get to the prototyping stage with mules, clay models are still used for design changes. Like the model X nose cone, judging by the fact in the 7.1 owners manual it still shows a Model S style nose cone, it's safe to say there is a resent model X clay model that doesn't match today's production model.
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