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what about solid state batteries?
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Still in R&D, a lot of USA innovation taking place
Btw, I just read that LFPs were invented in America, nice job
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Btw, I just read that LFPs were invented in America, nice job
Solid State Battery Tech For EV Cars: Challenges Lie Ahead
What you need to know about the state of solid state.
E90alex
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Sure, eventually. Probably at least another 10 years before they can perfect the technology and they are produced in enough mass quantities to make them cost effective in an EV.
Tesla is still behind their anticipated timeline for 4680 cell production and energy density goals. It will be a while before we see a revolutionary new battery technology.
Tesla is still behind their anticipated timeline for 4680 cell production and energy density goals. It will be a while before we see a revolutionary new battery technology.
The Lorax
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"Solid state batteries are the future of EV tech"...and always will be. 
I think we should be looking at all energy options.
ndb.technology
It's going to be exciting to see what prevails. Compact Disc was the game for digital music but it couldn't hang around after the MP3 explosion. Now you don't see any modern vehicles with a player in the console. Compact fluorescent was the wave only to be stifled by LED.
So, is solid state the way or is there something on the horizon that we just don't yet know about?
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NDB: Nano Diamond Battery is an innovative energy generator and storage that redefines and revolutionizes the battery as we know it.
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So, is solid state the way or is there something on the horizon that we just don't yet know about?
Diamond batteries are extremely low power. Very limited use cases.I think we should be looking at all energy options.
It's going to be exciting to see what prevails. Compact Disc was the game for digital music but it couldn't hang around after the MP3 explosion. Now you don't see any modern vehicles with a player in the console. Compact fluorescent was the wave only to be stifled by LED.Home
NDB: Nano Diamond Battery is an innovative energy generator and storage that redefines and revolutionizes the battery as we know it.
So, is solid state the way or is there something on the horizon that we just don't yet know about?
QuantumScape is currently building a pilot plant for their solid state batteries. VW seems to be pleased with the interim results.
howardnj
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Is there anyone that can drive 745 miles without stopping to pee?
I'm good for 200 miles occasionally, but mostly in the 150 miles range which is just fine for me.
I'm good for 200 miles occasionally, but mostly in the 150 miles range which is just fine for me.
TL:DR
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howardnj
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I have a list of 60 charge stations between New Jersey and Florida.
I charge ,eat, and pee at these stops.
I have no doubt that solid state will be great, someday. But Toyota has been blustering about this since ... 2013? StoreDot, QuantumScape, etc all want you to think it's right around the corner and invest now, but I think it's going to be a pretty long road between here and volume production products in people's driveways. Not never, but definitely not tomorrow.
Technology will continue to move forward; Will be a matter of time, specially when you have the likes of Toyota behind it. Money will be no issue. Then finally at last; No mas range anxiety and best of all; One can drive at whatever speed without worries
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Tam
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Toyota bets on fuel cells since 1992 or for the past 31 years and its Mirai fuel cell car is mostly unknown after all these time.Technology will continue to move forward; Will be a matter of time, specially when you have the likes of Toyota behind it. Money will be no issue. Then finally at last; No mas range anxiety and best of all; One can drive at whatever speed without worries
Solid State Battery has potential if you can commercialize it.
Toyota has been making headlines about SS batteries for over a decade.
thedriven.io
Can they deliver a great electric car? Absolutely!
That isn’t the question though, the question is ‘do they want to?’
Solid state batteries: Toyota has history of talking big on EV breakthrough, but not delivering
Media reports of Toyota's "battery breakthrough" should be taken with a grain of salt. The company has been promising big things on batteries for more than 14 years.
thedriven.io
Can they deliver a great electric car? Absolutely!
That isn’t the question though, the question is ‘do they want to?’
Watts_Up
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You need also to considere that in Japan, big companies have a no lay off policy and provide life time employment.
So Toyota just try to by time to wait until most of the worker in those factories making ICE engines and gearboxes will retire to close or to convert those factories to make EVs.
This is why Toyota build their new EVs in China, so Toyota don't need to build new factories in Japan, and only make EVs for getting some experience doing so.
Toyota spent two years to fix the wheels falling off. Now Toyota said that they can build 90 hybrid vehicles instead of a single EV for the same amount of battery components. And they still use the older MiMH batteries and no Li-ion.
Why killing the golden goose !!!
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