Tam
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If you don't have animals or human waiting in your car, I think your electronics, interior parts and glass will thank you for the feature.
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What are the justifiable reasons for enabling cabin overheat protection?
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If you don't have animals or human waiting in your car, I think your electronics, interior parts and glass will thank you for the feature.
chronopc
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I wished there was a way to turn on and off the overheat protection from the app.
I just let my kids hold my phone. Since they hold my most valuable possession I won’t forget the kids when I need to get my phone back!
As far as cabin overheat, everything is better when the climate is at a consistent range. Upholstery, electronics, etc.
As far as cabin overheat, everything is better when the climate is at a consistent range. Upholstery, electronics, etc.
how much range are you losing that this is an issue?
If you transport kids even once, then leave it on.
I dont have kids or pets, but id rather not have my car be 150 degrees in the interior. That can't be healthy for a MCU that i expect to last 10+ years.
My kids are old enough to get out of a hot car. I am really wondering if the overheat protection is a nicety or recommended. To my knowledge no other vehicles offer this, so I'd be nice to know if this buys me anything more than a more comfortable car at the expense of some kWh... Do the electronics need it? Will they last 20 years instead of 10? Looking for perspective.
Other vehicles don't have the capability for this. Other EVs might, but none have a battery pack with enough density to power such a thing.
There really isn't any hard data on if your car will last longer or not with overheat protection. Personally, i just think the high temperatures can't be healthy for any material, let it be electronic or dash. The electronics probably don't need it, as cabin overheat protection wasn't released until the last couple years. But we all know what heat does to electronics in terms of longevity.
Nothing based in hard fact, just conjecture and educated guesses i suppose.
Tam
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I haven't seen anyone doing a research on electronic longevity in a hot car under the sun heat.
It's a good time for students to take up this research
But there's hint that airbags are affected.
Eye Glass makers urges not to leave your glasses in a hot car.
Extreme heat can crack your dashboard
It can also crack your seat/steering wheel leather because the oil dries out:
There have been reports that rolled-up car window glass spontaneously breaks under the sun (not when they are rolled down, maybe because of the difference in cooling effect).
Spudford
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Here in the Sunshine State, we have to get the headliners of cars replaced after maybe 8 years of baking. Panoramic glass roofs mean no headliners, but they also increase the greenhouse effect, and I'd expect the interior surfaces to show the results.
In my day, we had leave-the-windows-cracked-a-little technology, and it was fairly effective in keeping the temperatures inside non-lethal. Can you do that in a Model 3? Is there a downside to it, other than losing protection against casual vandalism?
In my day, we had leave-the-windows-cracked-a-little technology, and it was fairly effective in keeping the temperatures inside non-lethal. Can you do that in a Model 3? Is there a downside to it, other than losing protection against casual vandalism?
Tam
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Yes. That technology is available for free in Model 3!
"What are the justifiable reasons for enabling cabin overheat protection?"
Speaking as someone who has a friend who's currently on trial for the death of his daughter, who died in an overly hot car, accidentally left there because he didn't realize she was still in the car asleep?
(She was supposed to be in day care at that time, and normally would have been, but hadn't been taken inside because she was sick... so he drove home, thinking the car was empty and, being in bad shape himself, went inside and went to sleep)
Unless you're flawless and incapable of making mistakes and have psychic powers to know where every living thing around you is at all times, without error .... just leave it on. Yes, your odds of making an error with someone you love are near zero. But as much as you may think they're exactly zero... they're not. And the consequences of being wrong are horrific.
Or, you can do it just to increase the longevity of your interior and electronics because.. seriously... would you leave your laptop in a 65°C oven all day every summer? Your cell phone? But... IMHO... that's not the real reason you should leave it on.
Speaking as someone who has a friend who's currently on trial for the death of his daughter, who died in an overly hot car, accidentally left there because he didn't realize she was still in the car asleep?
(She was supposed to be in day care at that time, and normally would have been, but hadn't been taken inside because she was sick... so he drove home, thinking the car was empty and, being in bad shape himself, went inside and went to sleep)
Unless you're flawless and incapable of making mistakes and have psychic powers to know where every living thing around you is at all times, without error .... just leave it on. Yes, your odds of making an error with someone you love are near zero. But as much as you may think they're exactly zero... they're not. And the consequences of being wrong are horrific.
Or, you can do it just to increase the longevity of your interior and electronics because.. seriously... would you leave your laptop in a 65°C oven all day every summer? Your cell phone? But... IMHO... that's not the real reason you should leave it on.
I doubt that battery drain is significantly effected by cabin overheat protection.
I don’t have any data to support this.
I also believe that it would not necessarily prevent harm from coming to a baby or a pet or that it was implemented solely for that purpose. 106° Is still very hot.
When we leave our dog in the car I set the A/C to stay on at between 68° and 70° Then I place signs I printed on card stock in the rear windows to enlighten would-be Good Samaritans who might be tempted to break my window.
Some electronic components in a Tesla are always on to some extent.
I’m guessing that electronic components consume more energy at higher temperatures, so preventing circuits from overheating may actually lower energy consumption. I’m also guessing it shortens the life of electronic components.
I don’t have any data to support this.
I also believe that it would not necessarily prevent harm from coming to a baby or a pet or that it was implemented solely for that purpose. 106° Is still very hot.
When we leave our dog in the car I set the A/C to stay on at between 68° and 70° Then I place signs I printed on card stock in the rear windows to enlighten would-be Good Samaritans who might be tempted to break my window.
Some electronic components in a Tesla are always on to some extent.
I’m guessing that electronic components consume more energy at higher temperatures, so preventing circuits from overheating may actually lower energy consumption. I’m also guessing it shortens the life of electronic components.
Not in modern efficient datacenters... For those that don't have customer contracts which require them to be abnormally low, people run cold aisles around 80-85F which yields hot aisles more like 115-120F.
chronopc
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As long as your defining Heatstroke & Death as uncomfortable.
How Hot Does Your Car Get? It Might Kill You!
Tam
Well-Known Member
Babies often fall asleep during drive and they often don't move an inch or cry when a driver exit either.
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